Updating /help, Community Project

[Vaeldious]

Hey guys! So I'm working on updating the in-game /help menus. Feel free to post here any discrepancies/outdated information you find, this thread will serve as a tracking / in progress / notes all in one resource and you can see the progress as /help is updated. Green text is current, red text has bugs, orange text is suggested scripter/manager level changes.

1. Rules
---[Rules]

2. General
---[Appearance]
---[Animations]
---[Essential Commands]
---[Events]
---[Name Changes]
---[Passports & Licenses]
---[Spawning]
---[Time/Date/Weather]

3. Constitution
---[I. Constitution of Argonath]
---[II. Ordnance I-VI]
---[II. Ordnance VI-XI]-Change name to "II. Ordnance VII-XI"
---[II. Ordnance XII-XV]
---[III. Act I-XII]-Does not display dialog box
---[III. Act XIII-XXIII]
---[III. Act XXIV-XXVII]
---[IV. Courts Laws, Rules, & Procedure]
---[V, VI. Citizenship & Related Laws]

4. Careers
---[Civilian]
------[Firefighter]
------[Driver]
------[Medic]
------[Mechanic]
------[Trucker]
------[Hooker]- Entry needs created
------[Mining]- Entry needs created
------[Oil Pump Repair]- Entry needs created
------[Pizza Delivery]- Entry needs created
---[Criminal]
------[Being a Suspect]
------[Hitman System]
------[Drug System]
------[Territory System & Protecting Business]
------[Gang Wars System]
------[Notoriety]
---------[Notoriety]
---------[Black Market]Unable to edit via panel (404'd on help dialog 146))
---------[Currency]
---[Police]
------[SAPD]
---------[Divisions]
------------[SWAT]
------------[AD]
---------[Introduction]
---------[Regulations Pt I]- Back button generates error 6.
---------[Regulations Pt II]- Back button generates error 6.
---------[Regulations Pt III]- Back button generates error 6.
------[FBI]
------[Commands]
------[Police Codes]
------[Advise]
------[FAQ]- Back Button does not return to previous menu
---[Officials]
------[ARA]
------[ATC]
---------[About]
---------[ATC Codes]
------[CMB]
------[SADS]

5. Chat
---[Chatmodes]
---[Advertisements]
---[Citizens Band Radio]
---[Phones]

6. Economy- Remove Outdated pages, rename description to match
---[Key Changes From RS4.1]- Outdated, Can be removed
---[Update to Economy 2.0]- Outdated, Can be removed
---[Bank Accounts]
---[ATMs]
---[Briefcases]
---[Global Bank & City Bank]- Outdated, Can be removed
---[Loans, Credit Score, & Networth]- Outdated, Can be removed
---[Full Command List]

7. Group
---[Groups]

8. Item System
---[Containers]
---[Acquiring Items]
---[GPS]

9. Property
---[Main Commands & Script Changes]
---[Houses]
---[Businesses]
------[Businesses]
------[Pay 'N' Spray]
---[Territories]

10. Vehicles
---[Dealers & Prices]
------[Grotti, Rodeo, LS]
------[Autobahn, Royal Casino, LV]
------[Wang's Cars, Kings, SF]
------[Abandoned Air Port Dealership, Bone County]
------[Ottos Autos, Downtown, SF]
------[Autobahn, Redsands East, LV]
------[$hody Cars, Redsands West, LV]
------[Coutt and Schultz Cars, Las Colinas, LS]
------[Boat Dealership, Bayside Marina, Bayside]
------[San Fierro Airport Dealership, Easter Basin, SF]
------[Big Cock, Las Payasadas, Bone County]
------[Angel Pine, Whetstone]
---[Owning Vehicles]
---[Group Vehicles]
---[Using Vehicles]
---[Pay 'N' Spray]- Back button generates error 6.

11. Misc
---[Gambling]
---[Weapons]
---[Radio]
---[Rescue]
---[Horse Betting]


12. Administration
---[Current Administration Team]

13. Credits
---[Credits]

[Johan_S]

Yeah, keep it up.

[Bruce.]

I have been updating it a bit a few weeks ago but been a bit busy lately and had no time for it. I am always ready to update it. I just need the proper information. Send it via PM here and I will for sure update it with the best I can.

[Vaeldious]

I have been updating it a bit a few weeks ago but been a bit busy lately and had no time for it. I am always ready to update it. I just need the proper information. Send it via PM here and I will for sure update it with the best I can.

Of course, just trying to get one centralized location for all contributors to track their work and maintain transparency with the community. Definitely appreciate the help, bruce

[Bruce.]

Also at point 4.Careers/Criminal [Drug system] is fully updated. Also the whole point 10 is fully updated. So mark it green. That's all i've updated so far.

[Julio.]

Where did you have to apply/register an interest in updating the ingame help? I brought it up a couple of times but was never approached.

Are all the text entries in black currently in the server?

I had a new player ask me recently to explain the /characters script and I found it difficult to justify due to it's lack of integration. Will be interesting to see how it can be explained in the /help!

[Vaeldious]

@Julio. it was direct from Mikro to get the permissions. I can only edit, not create new pages, so even im limited....but characters is a good point to bring into the help docs. And yeah, thats the whole mapped /help. Some stuff can be removed (like hitman system afaik), and mikro said to keep it simple, in game help isnt supposed to be a wiki.

[Stivi]

1. Rules
---[Rules]

This should be number 1 priority.

---[Animations]-Should link to /animhelp

They serve different purposes, if you click on the anim it will apply it - that won't work from /help, without Mikro/devs interfering.

3. Constitution
---[I. Constitution of Argonath]
---[II. Ordnance I-VI]
---[II. Ordnance VI-XI]-Change name to "II. Ordnance VII-XI"
---[II. Ordnance XII-XV]
---[III. Act I-XII]-Does not display dialog box
---[III. Act XIII-XXIII]
---[III. Act XXIV-XXVII]
---[IV. Courts Laws, Rules, & Procedure]
---[V, VI. Citizenship & Related Laws]

I am unable to go IG right now, but if you can please go and try to click on the last thing "V, VI...", if it returns you to the previous page, then there is a number missing in the list. Unsure how Mikro's /help system works but that should be an easy fix if you can make lists on /help. If however every other item works fine, then the dialog id is wrong. It works fine on the panel, so it could be a resolution thingy too.

------[FAQ]- Back Button does not return to previous menu

This looked like a great idea at the time I made it, but it's heavily outdated, can as well be removed.

6. Economy
---[Key Changes From RS4.1]
---[Update to Economy 2.0]
---[Bank Accounts]
---[ATMs]
---[Briefcases]
---[Global Bank & City Bank]
---[Loans, Credit Score, & Networth]

I've updated the wiki section about this, so if you need some help: http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?title=SA-MP_RS5_Guide_for_Beginners#RS5.2_Economy

8. Item System
---[Containers]
---[GPS]

Both these two need update.

---[Group Vehicles]

This is actually not unfinished, it is just something I never removed from the name. However with RS5.2 it is outdated as the numbers have changed.

11. Misc
---[Gambling]
----[Hazard]
----[Slots]
----[Dice]
----[Other 2-player game(S) i forgot]

There should be more sub-dialogs added to this, FTFY.


PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE WAY COLORING WORKS. THERE ARE TWO OR THREE DIALOGS HIDDEN IN /HELP THAT ARE FOR HELPERS ONLY AND CAN'T BE ACCESSED BY PLAYERS FROM IN GAME, FIND THOSE AND READ THEM.

[Vaeldious]

@Stivi Wow, thanks for taking the time to address all that. Ill sift through what's what here in the next few hours. As far as coloring goes, the standard I've been trying to get to is something like this:

{0082B5}   Title Color (Blue)
{78B4CC}   Text Color (light blue)
{D10606}   Warning (Red)
{B8840B}   Command (orange)
{00C24A}   Data (green)

But again, my access is limited only to editing the content of the individual dialogs; I cannot create or remove them...can't even edit the title/names of them. Didn't know that about animhelp, good to know. Corrected progress accordingly.

[Stivi]

@Stivi Wow, thanks for taking the time to address all that. Ill sift through what's what here in the next few hours. As far as coloring goes, the standard I've been trying to get to is something like this:

{0082B5}   Title Color (Blue)
{78B4CC}   Text Color (light blue)
{D10606}   Warning/important notes (Red)
{B8840B}   Commands (orange)
{00C24A}   Notes/explanations (green)

But again, my access is limited only to editing the content of the individual dialogs; I cannot create or remove them...can't even edit the title/names of them. Didn't know that about animhelp, good to know. Corrected progress accordingly.

FTFY

I have no idea how help is being updated right  now. In the old panel we had a split page, one to edit the dialog name, title, shortcut, type. And another panel with how the help page currently is, and how it would be if changes were saved. We also had a vertical line to help us keep the text viewable for anyone (resolution issue). I hope these stuff do get implemented in current panel - it makes an editor's life easier but also removed stress from developers not having to help editors out :P

[Vaeldious]

Ty for the fix. Current panel simply has an edit button, of which can edit the raw content, but not the title of the dialog. No guideline to determine where a newline should begin, and I've already had to correct a few pages that no longer format properly and wordwrap. Basically, I keep the game running, alt+tab out, edit/save the changes, switch back to game and check how it looks. Thats why ive kept the hex colors handy, just to keep the same format from page to page. Trying to knock out all other pages except careers first, since it has the most branches and needs the most love (adding additional pages).

[Stivi]

Ah well that kinda sucks. Those options were very handy.

[Stivi]

Someone must take over this! I volunteer for it.