[POLL] Vehicles used in chases, by freecops

[izolenta]

 simplyUNSUPPORTED

[Ramis]

This may be a little complicated rule, if a suspect swaps vehicles mid-chase to another category vehicle, technically all cops are suddenly breaking this new idea rule, and the car swap for the LCPD wins the suspect tremendous time and distance barrier from the law enforcement units. Also it may take a bunch of time explaining this to the cops that are new , or unaware of the rule. In theory I would support this rule if it was a little simplier.
Also gotta be another problem is to care about all the cops who simply dont give a damn, and often some freecops dont really love to follow such rules , especially with no staff online.
All the rules should be kept as simple as possible, basically to be be understood by everybody. This idea is quite interesting , but really complicated and possibly hard to implement and to make people follow it.

Though in my opinion I think that whatever car a suspect drives, it should be his own problem , if a cop is driving a much quicker vehicle.
Nobody asked you to be a criminal at first place

[JackDockz]

Well yoy also need more cars for the cops as there aint enough sometimes

[Surena]

Also gotta be another problem is to care about all the cops who simply dont give a damn, and often some freecops dont really love to follow such rules , especially with no staff online.

There is a simple fix for that;

Send screenshot to admin via forum PM -> Take some popcorn with juice and enjoy the punishment later on.

[Surena]

Personally, i dont think a cop should be allowed to use any other vehicle than a police vehicle and if they dont have one or are in another vehicle and a pursuit happens then they should stay 10-8 and carry on doing what they're doing because when theres sultans and sports cars chasing a suspect with a few police cars in the mix it looks really unprofessional.

That is also true.

Spoiler for what happens in reality:

Spoiler for how it should be:

[rid]

And what about the police helicopter?
Due to being unable to ram the suspect with it, would it be allowed to chase all vehicles?

For this idea, the Police helicopter wouldn't suffer any changes, so yes its allowed.

This may be a little complicated rule, if a suspect swaps vehicles mid-chase to another category vehicle, technically all cops are suddenly breaking this new idea rule, and the car swap for the LCPD wins the suspect tremendous time and distance barrier from the law enforcement units. Also it may take a bunch of time explaining this to the cops that are new , or unaware of the rule. In theory I would support this rule if it was a little simplier.
Also gotta be another problem is to care about all the cops who simply dont give a damn, and often some freecops dont really love to follow such rules , especially with no staff online.
All the rules should be kept as simple as possible, basically to be be understood by everybody. This idea is quite interesting , but really complicated and possibly hard to implement and to make people follow it.

Though in my opinion I think that whatever car a suspect drives, it should be his own problem , if a cop is driving a much quicker vehicle.
Nobody asked you to be a criminal at first place

Like it says in the thread, if a suspect swaps vehicles mid-chase the police can keep chasing after him until they find a decent opportunity to switch vehicle as well. If the vehicle they are using has a huge advantage over the vehicle the suspect just switched to, then they should tone down their aggressiveness for a while until they switch the vehicle. They don't have to switch to an LCPD car - they can still switch to any state car that is considered fit for the chase. It will be up to the criminal to pass by zones where there are decent state vehicles for the cops to switch to - otherwise the cops can and will stay with whatever car they are using.

Remember there is no hard-defined list of which category a certain vehicle belongs to, so some small tolerance would be allowed, this is especially good for vehicles that are between average and fast, average and heavy, even heavy and fast. Just don't go pick some ridiculous shit like a Comet chasing after a Stallion.

Regarding the rules - it's pretty simple. Administrators just have to do their job and enforce it, as long as they are not lazy bums people will straighten out.

In the first week or two it might take a while because people will not be familiar with it, but that is all it takes. This whole "complex" rules bullshit is stupid, because there are all sorts of complex rules and laws already in the server and I'm not seeing these being removed. This wouldn't be any harder, just in the beginning days of its implementation where people still don't know about it.

Like I said before and I will say it again, most cops that "abuse" this are cops that are already quite familiar with the server - in other words - regular players that KNOW what they are doing. Which means they should have absolutely NO problem following these new rules if they get implemented - and like Kerrar said, a screenshot would be enough to prove the point. Couple warnings, couple kicks, temporary copbans, and everyone will learn to follow these rules.

Well yoy also need more cars for the cops as there aint enough sometimes

Cops can still chase suspects with state vehicles. There won't be any lack of vehicles, there's plenty of state vehicles everywhere.

Remember that freecops still need to know how to use the megaphone, how to properly pull over people, be able to distinguish what is a law break and what is a rule break, etc.
I don't see people complaining about that being too complicated... it's definitely harder than a 3 vehicle category system.

simplyUNSUPPORTED

Thanks for your nice argument. Couldn't agree more. yes, it's sarcasm

[Ramis]

For this idea, the Police helicopter wouldn't suffer any changes, so yes its allowed.


Like it says in the thread, if a suspect swaps vehicles mid-chase the police can keep chasing after him until they find a decent opportunity to switch vehicle as well. If the vehicle they are using has a huge advantage over the vehicle the suspect just switched to, then they should tone down their aggressiveness for a while until they switch the vehicle. They don't have to switch to an LCPD car - they can still switch to any state car that is considered fit for the chase. It will be up to the criminal to pass by zones where there are decent state vehicles for the cops to switch to - otherwise the cops can and will stay with whatever car they are using.

Remember there is no hard-defined list of which category a certain vehicle belongs to, so some small tolerance would be allowed, this is especially good for vehicles that are between average and fast, average and heavy, even heavy and fast. Just don't go pick some ridiculous shit like a Comet chasing after a Stallion.

Regarding the rules - it's pretty simple. Administrators just have to do their job and enforce it, as long as they are not lazy bums people will straighten out.

In the first week or two it might take a while because people will not be familiar with it, but that is all it takes. This whole "complex" rules bullshit is stupid, because there are all sorts of complex rules and laws already in the server and I'm not seeing these being removed. This wouldn't be any harder, just in the beginning days of its implementation where people still don't know about it.

Like I said before and I will say it again, most cops that "abuse" this are cops that are already quite familiar with the server - in other words - regular players that KNOW what they are doing. Which means they should have absolutely NO problem following these new rules if they get implemented - and like Kerrar said, a screenshot would be enough to prove the point. Couple warnings, couple kicks, temporary copbans, and everyone will learn to follow these rules.


Cops can still chase suspects with state vehicles. There won't be any lack of vehicles, there's plenty of state vehicles everywhere.

Remember that freecops still need to know how to use the megaphone, how to properly pull over people, be able to distinguish what is a law break and what is a rule break, etc.
I don't see people complaining about that being too complicated... it's definitely harder than a 3 vehicle category system.


Thanks for your nice argument. Couldn't agree more. yes, it's sarcasm

I dont disagree with the idea, another issue is making sure everyone does it. And if you can make people actually follow it , then this could be quite an interesting rule. Also we should draw a clear line , which car falls into which category , to avoid confusion.

[James Conway]

This might be a little confusing to enforce, not for us but for the players. We like to keep it simple, however I like the idea. Often I see people driving personal vehicles or supercars for simple suspects. Just like the easiness people go on /duty to chase one suspect and instantly go off /duty when he is captured. In that case people don't even bother with changing vehicle and just stay in their supercars. So I agree with some way of limiting players in their choice of vehicles to chase after a suspect. Only using lcpd vehicles would be preferred.

[Joey]

Got a simple idea that might change stuff alot.

If any cop chasing a suspect is using any car other than a lcpd marked vehicle, then he wont be able to freeze the suspects rhl. Only using lcpd marked vehicles will freeze the suspects rhl when near him.

[Mihail Junkovich]

I got a variation of that idea that could maybe go along with some of the current scripts xD

If a player was not in law enforcement vehicle in past [insert period of time, duration inside of vehicle at least 3 minutes] he does not get the reward for the suspect nor can he /cuff or /jail

The same script could be probably overridden with /rank command [in case of FBI] or vehicle categories [in case of NOOSE TRU/CIU custom vehicles]

Alternatively, the script could work so that it gives reduced prizes for the same thing?

[sausage]

all free cops should be using marked vehicles (script it so that freecops can't enter any other vehicle on duty) and then the noose should create a new hsiu division that trains people to use approved high speed vehicles under strict circumstances (cars against sultan RS, infernus, etc) that gives them the dark blue name and the ability to drive fast cars and if they abuse it then just remove it from them and punish them yes that would be lovely

ps yes i know this is ivmp I played ivmp back in the days

[PuNNcT]

What about /rhl ? I'm pretty sure it wont go away unless you are being followed by a cruiser.