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[UNBANNED] Viktor_Gvardia banned by [GSF]Robert_Fisher.

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on: September 27, 2017, 05:19:06 pm
Your in-game name:
Viktor_Gvardia

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Deathmatching, /q to avoid punishment.

Admin who banned you:
[GSF]Robert_Fisher.

When you were banned:
Now.

Additional notes:
Well, I neither DM'ed nor /q'ed to avoid " the " punishment...

I'd like to know why would he ban me for such a reason.



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Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 05:31:14 pm
Hi Viktor.

You were reported for DM by couple of players and I did handle these reports. When I spoke to you and Dennis in the admin house. You said Charlie told them to leave, then you landed and they were aiming.. So you just opened fire without proper interaction with the other side. To let you know, "Leave or die" RPs count as Deathmatch which is without a doubt not allowed.

In the middle of our chat in the admin house, Just after I started questioning you about DM. You /q'ed, Ignoring my questions to you.

Also, Considering your punishments history, You were pretty much punished for the same reason more than three times which means you got enough warnings about it.

I hope everything is clear from my side.



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Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 05:46:59 pm
Hi Viktor.

You were reported for DM by couple of players and I did handle these reports. When I spoke to you and Dennis in the admin house. You said Charlie told them to leave, then you landed and they were aiming.. So you just opened fire without proper interaction with the other side. To let you know, "Leave or die" RPs count as Deathmatch which is without a doubt not allowed.

This is totally way different from " leave or die "...

1st it's an empty weedfield we found..
2nd Charlie and couple of associates were taking cover speaking to the other players who were doing the same.
3rd Buddah was on the roof aiming at the guys on the field.
4th When we landed to speak to Buddah he took off without saying a single word.. ( check the logs. i told im to stop to talk, then he took off)
5th After Charlie asking for help, i landed on SFAP, found Dennis aiming  which made me think that the shoot out started, BUT i did not shoot him on sight, i was running towards him, he simply entered his vehicle and drove away, while he was driving i shot him.



In the middle of our chat in the admin house, Just after I started questioning you about DM. You /q'ed, Ignoring my questions to you.

I did not ignore, and i q'ed cuz i explained to you the scenario more than 3 times, 1st time when Dennis reported me, AND i told you " I'm willing to leave the field, i don't care ".
when i asked you to continue, you said yes, then suddenly we got shot at from no where, i pm'ed you, and asked you about solving the scene, and asked to get TP'ed with Dennis, to sort the situation out and perhaps continue the scenario.. yet you totally ignored what i said earlier and started to questioning me about Dennis's report, if you did not get my part of story why you told me to continue ?

Although you have no evidence about me shooting him on sight beside his words..

And i did not /q to avoid your punishment, you said " you should leave the field " i replied " Ok, fk it i'm out " then /q'ed, and i even spoke to you on discord just to give you the clear story, yet once i logged IG you gave me a straight ban.

Also, Considering your punishments history, You were pretty much punished for the same reason more than three times which means you got enough warnings about it.

I hope everything is clear from my side.
Whatever you say, still. i don't deserve a ban, because what i did even if it was DM as you say, it'd be a miss understanding, because i'm not a player who pull the trigger for no reason.
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Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 06:05:13 pm
Running towards him and then shooting after he got inside a vehicle and ran away? (depends to you). I will be honest with you, that's a lame reason to shoot and that doesn't count as a proper interaction with the other side.

You said you /q'ed after I asked you to leave the field. That's not correct either, You did /q whilst I was asking you about the reason of shooting. Other admins were there too and saw it. Can as them to confirm if you want.

When I told you "Yes" continue. That was due to the fact that I received informations from your side only. The other side didn't give a brief explanation to the incident but then they did. And I TP'ed you both to make things way more clear.

We do have strict orders regarding DM. And I believe you did DM. I hope you quit acting innocent like everytime. Be clear and honest if you want things to go well.

Up to HQ



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Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 06:14:50 pm
Running towards him and then shooting after he got inside a vehicle and ran away? (depends to you). I will be honest with you, that's a lame reason to shoot and that doesn't count as a proper interaction with the other side.

This is funny.. how am i suppose to interact with two players who saw me then ran away ? over /pm maybe ?


You said you /q'ed after I asked you to leave the field. That's not correct either, You did /q whilst I was asking you about the reason of shooting. Other admins were there too and saw it. Can as them to confirm if you want.

When I told you "Yes" continue. That was due to the fact that I received informations from your side only. The other side didn't give a brief explanation to the incident but then they did. And I TP'ed you both to make things way more clear.


I did /q immediately after you said leave the field, anyways, i did not really care about the field, but i /q'ed then entered the discord to talk to you, if i thought it'll get me punished i wouldn't  have /q'ed..

Did they tell you that they shot us after Dennis's report? Vinnie was on the roof came with 1 hp left lol.. Charlie got sniped, i dunno who else.


We do have strict orders regarding DM. And I believe you did DM. I hope you quit acting innocent like everytime. Be clear and honest if you want things to go well.

Up to HQ
Strict rules? bro, if a player who saw me approaching to him entered a vehicle then drove away, how can i interact with him ? especially on a weedfield " their field ".

Acting innocent like everytime ? check my previous unban requests, every ban i got, i 100 percent admitted my faults, unlike you, rushing in your decision with lack of evidences

Sure, i'll wait for the HQ.




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Reply #5 on: September 27, 2017, 06:34:11 pm
You can simply /report for ignoring RP rather than shooting which is a clear DM.

About the /q part. It was seen by other staff members too and confirmed by them as well. So I'm not the only one. As soon as I started to question you. You /q'ed.

I already told you my verdict about the whole situation and before that you said you are open for my decision and ready to leave the field. After I confirmed that you should leave the field. Why did you call me "unfair" and "stoned". Seconds after that I started asking you about the shooting reason and you /q'ed.

I'm quite sure about my decision to ban. You break a rule you get punished.

And no, If a player ignores you. You cant shoot them as I stated above.

Let me know if you need more details about any part.



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Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 06:39:32 pm
ready to leave the field. After I confirmed that you should leave the field. Why did you call me "unfair" and "stoned". Seconds after that I started asking you about the shooting reason and you /q'ed.

I'm quite sure about my decision to ban. You break a rule you get punished.

And no, If a player ignores you. You cant shoot them as I stated above.

Let me know if you need more details about any part.
So you think i q'ed because you told us to leave the field ?  :lol: you simply turned the " clearing " the scene situation into " Questioning Viktor " Situation, you still did not answer my question, did they tell you that we got shot at for no reason after you telling me to continue ? :)




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Reply #7 on: September 27, 2017, 06:51:32 pm
You simply first clear the situation and then see which side made mistakes and then deal with them about it. If you don't like being questioned, Then I'm afraid thats not my problem.

They indeed started shooting, And I stopped that, After that I TPed you both to the admin house so we can speak about the whole situation. Had to look at the root of the problem and it was quite obvious that you started the whole situation by an un wise decision.

I honestly don't know what you are trying to prove. But, I will stay open and patient with you until the end.



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Reply #8 on: September 27, 2017, 07:01:38 pm
You simply first clear the situation and then see which side made mistakes and then deal with them about it. If you don't like being questioned, Then I'm afraid thats not my problem.

I do understand that, but you clearly kept pointing at me, and eventually decided to let us leave the field, when you said that, i thought the " questioning " is over, and your decision is to leave their field, i did not get pissed cuz we had to leave, only because you did not get the correct story.. that's where i thought the problem got solved and i /q'ed, never thought that i'd get punished, anyways..



They indeed started shooting, And I stopped that, After that I TPed you both to the admin house so we can speak about the whole situation. Had to look at the root of the problem and it was quite obvious that you started the whole situation by an un wise decision.

Alright so i started it, then you stopped the scene, they went up to the roof and started to shoot at us, as far as i know Khm/Kenawa asked them to stop shooting, and somehow i'm the only one who got punished, what is this bro? we're playing hide n seek or what?

I honestly don't know what you are trying to prove. But, I will stay open and patient with you until the end.
I'm clearing the things you could not figure out IG, if you still think i'm THE ONLY ONE who need to be banned then i disagree with you, you simply believed the first guy who got banned for " Stop or die " rule, and figured out somehow that i managed to start a dm scene, well, i accept if i deserve to be banned, but Dennis should be creating an unban request with me.



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Reply #9 on: September 27, 2017, 07:22:36 pm
I didn't ban you based on what Dennis said, You said it yourself.. "He got in his vehicle to run away" So you opened fire at him. That will never ever count as a proper RP reason/Interaction to shoot at him. You could simply report him as I mentioned above for ignoring RP.

I also did consider your punishmemts history all for pretty much the same reason. DMing/Poor RP and so on. You cant do this for the 6th time and get away with a light punishment.

About Dennis, He was told to stop shooting and he did. And then we went to sort things out from the root. I wouldn't hesitiate to ban him if I did feel he deserves one. The whole situation was a mess.

I hope things are more clear now but let me know if you still unsure about any part.



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Reply #10 on: September 27, 2017, 07:32:56 pm
I approached to Dennis because i've been asked to come down to SFAP via /cb, and he showed not intentions to RP.


I will leave it up to the HQ.



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Reply #11 on: September 30, 2017, 09:03:01 pm
Unbanned.

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