Protest || Corrupt Government & Change.

[Caltson]

Actually, The ARPD warned you.

[Janicch]

Actually, The ARPD warned you.

And that gives them right to shoot, punch, fight, kill Innocent citizens? Okay, we did something 'too much'. But that wasnt too serious. From today i'm just wondering what ARPD is doing. Okay, the SWAT, The van, prison thing was great, i agree. But the brutality what we got from Police, SWAT.. It wasnt neccesary, Because we came up the stairs, they just punched civilians, they even punched young boy an a granny ( MrsS ). But in the prison.. i was out of my mind, Started to shoot 'because of not sitting down?'

[Jcstodds]

  I think that it was a pretty tame protest and involved some good cop RP.

If you want something to complain about, go protest in front of Fort Carson PD about human rights and corruptness and see what happens   :redface: 

Ps. I was RPing government at the time, should have gave me a call if you wanted some citizen complaining RP

[BlackBird]

If this server had a democracy it would of DIED long time ago or just become a DM server..

So what your saying, is Argonath has no democaracy and is all just a Oligarchy?
yeah thats great, thats what i joined argo for years ago   to be ruled over by people who kept saying its a democracy
now the point in my last couple topics has been proven thanks to your help CBF   Thanks

And Abe i want to argue your point of no one wants diff leaders.
I do, Honestly all Ron and Gandalf do other then scripting is come in game for like a half hour and do a party or something.
They hardly ever reply at any Argo forums, i Think Goverment should be people we vote for, who are active and post commonly on the forums.

[Abraham]

I too think the government should be people you vote for, but I'm arguing in an OOC point of view, since CBFasi claimed this was OOC.

[Mangus]

Well, I did this IC and not OOC, and that's why I called the cops "Corrupt bastards" or "Moneyhungry assholes". I wouldn't say that OOC to those people. However, even though I didn't do what the SWAT told me to, which was to sit down in a corner all day, killing me with an M4 and beating me up with a nitestick is maybe a little overkill when my crime was "Trespassing" at the City Hall. Also, what makes this time different than other times? Just because it's a protest, it shouldn't prohibit you from walking up the stairs or going inside City Hall. They claimed it as their property, and everyone who came near got a punch from the nitestick.

I don't know, maybe I didn't see that they had no will to discuss the matter what so ever, but at least I think they overreacted just the slightest by killing a citizen when he didn't obey the SWAT because he was suspected for walking up the stairs of City Hall. But, what do I know, I'm neither a law-writer nor an ARPD chief, so I guess I have no voice to speak. Atleast it didn't seem like it at the protest today.

[BlackBird]

i See main admins have nothing to say to my comment again....awsome, i love how much of a intrest they have in the players of there community that they "run"

[Malcolm]

So what your saying, is Argonath has no democaracy and is all just a Oligarchy?
yeah thats great, thats what i joined argo for years ago   to be ruled over by people who kept saying its a democracy

That's exactly what he's saying, because lets face it, if the power went just to the people hell would've broken loose. Look at the SA:MP Ideas topic, are you looking? Good. Now you'll probably see some stupid idea among the pages but you'll see allot of people just posting "Support!", now lets say "Support!" is a vote for yes.. and so on you would have a new script or significant ingame wich everyone would think were 'good' for like a week but turn out to be.. crap. The death of the server would be a matter of time. There is a reason why 'they' are in "charge".
Note that I am one of the "people" I was talking about and I still share CBF's and mores opinion.

[hell1989]

Who made ARPD law makers? I thought they are here as Civil servants?

[Pancher]

Who made ARPD law makers? I thought they are here as Civil servants?

ARPD is not law makers, they are there to assist to make sure the law is followed, Guide and help citizens.

Even ARPD officers breaks laws sometimes :rules:

[Malcolm]

Who made ARPD law makers? I thought they are here as Civil servants?

..What pancher said, and I'm not sure "servants" is the word you're looking for..

[BlackBird]

That's exactly what he's saying, because lets face it, if the power went just to the people hell would've broken loose. Look at the SA:MP Ideas topic, are you looking? Good. Now you'll probably see some stupid idea among the pages but you'll see allot of people just posting "Support!", now lets say "Support!" is a vote for yes.. and so on you would have a new script or significant ingame wich everyone would think were 'good' for like a week but turn out to be.. crap. The death of the server would be a matter of time. There is a reason why 'they' are in "charge".
Note that I am one of the "people" I was talking about and I still share CBF's and mores opinion.

Goverment wouldnt be scripters idiot. Scripters would be scripters.
Goverment would be Goverment, Right now all the "Goverment" are busy scripting so guess what? theres no one on.

ARPD is not law makers, they are there to assist to make sure the law is followed, Guide and help citizens.

Even ARPD officers breaks laws sometimes :rules:

And when do they help civilians? Most the time most of them power game, metagame, Bitch when you kill them, Whine when they cant catch a Suspect, and just money grub.

[Omri]

Goverment wouldnt be scripters idiot. Scripters would be scripters.
Goverment would be Goverment, Right now all the "Goverment" are busy scripting so guess what? theres no one on.And when do they help civilians? Most the time most of them power game, metagame, bad guy when you kill them, Whine when they cant catch a Suspect, and just money grub.

I must agree with 99 % correctly answers.

[Malcolm]

Goverment wouldnt be scripters idiot. Scripters would be scripters.
Goverment would be Goverment, Right now all the "Goverment" are busy scripting so guess what? theres no one on.

Yea I get you're point but isn't a part of the Goverments job to pass through ideas (wich is partly what scripters do, therefore I believe they should stay as Goverment) and laws, and democracy being the right to vote, weigh the two together and you've got my former post. If this is not what the Goverments job is, what would "your" Goverment do?

And their is no need for name-calling, it pisses me off and I could've done the same, but I wont.
Lets try and keep it proffesional (spelling?).

[Gandalf]

A democracy is not where people who shout the loudest get what they want.
As our absence has shown, Argonath is by no means ready for a democracy.

We still care, like we have always cared.
But we do not care about powergaming or metagaming, as its not in our vocabulary and never will be.
This is why we are keeping to our rules and our principles, as we have seen imprisonment anly works for those wihtout the ability to think for themselves.