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U.S. Soldier Survives Taliban Machine Gun Fire During Firefight

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Reply #75 on: October 09, 2012, 01:42:17 pm
They are fighting for a cause, they had their country invaded and they are fighting for it, sure, the retards who use little kids are f**king scum that should die.
Who invaded Afghanistan? Right now I'm not talking about Taliban (hence I fucking even strokethrough that part), I'm talking about NATO soldiers. How are they fighting for their countries, for their NATO?

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Reply #76 on: October 09, 2012, 03:23:31 pm
Yes, 20 seconds to reload. This guy wouldn't survive 20 seconds in a real war.

he is not in close quarters so it dousen't really matter because he wont get the mg anyway since he is way to far away and thats a short barrel m4 and there is a thing called gravity


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Reply #77 on: October 10, 2012, 12:29:13 am
Who invaded Afghanistan? Right now I'm not talking about Taliban (hence I f**king even strokethrough that part), I'm talking about NATO soldiers. How are they fighting for their countries, for their NATO?

Ah, misunderstood ya :P Well, you see, for Americans they have some feeling of hunting down those who are responsible for the attacks, I'm with ya in this, I do not agree with the invasion of Afghanistan by them, but when you join the Armed forces, you are fighting for your country, that does not mean only in the defensive, that's what I was saying, in their minds, they are fighting for a cause they deem worth, although we may not agree with that, we must respect, and maybe fight for our own causes.


I'm reading a book about the Battle of Arnhem, and it interviews a British soldier, who was injured, he was in a basement of house that was in fire, with another 100 injured and dying people aswell as allot of bodies, they got captured by a German Wehrmacht General, not one of the nazi psychos that tortured everyone, the general sent his soldiers to retrieve the British injured, the german soldiers gave the injured food from their own rations, as they we're being brought back through German lines, the germans would say " Good fight, good luck" that kind of thing, they respected their enemies, they we're two sides in a war, but in the end, they're all soldiers, their doing their jobs, they are fighting for what they think is right. and that was in a time there was allot of hatred between both sides, since the SS Generals and Hitler we're indeed a bunch of crazy ass motherfuckers, but in that time, Most generals and soldiers from the regular army did not know of what was going on, they just saw themselves in a war, their country had been fucked by everyone in WW1, they wanted revenge, their leader gave em courage and made it possible for them to become powerfull, and their morale was high, and so they fought.

So, tl;dr, The leaders of the countries are the messed up ones, they are the ones that cause the wars and they are responsible for every bullet that is shot, the soldiers, they are in a war, it is a terrible thing, yes, but they are doing their jobs.



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Reply #78 on: October 10, 2012, 01:55:58 pm
So, tl;dr, The leaders of the countries are the messed up ones, they are the ones that cause the wars and they are responsible for every bullet that is shot, the soldiers, they are in a war, it is a terrible thing, yes, but they are doing their jobs.
No since SOME countries go to war just to make peace, would you want a country to exist thats ran by the Taliban? I highly doubt you would.

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Reply #79 on: October 10, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
-America goes to Afghanistan to make a local group to fight against the Russians.
-Leaves the group alone for some years.
-America returns to Afghanistan to eliminate a group made by themselves for peace by making war.
-F*** logic.

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would you want a country to exist thats ran by the Taliban? I highly doubt you would.

Would i want a country that ran by warmongers? I speak of America not Taliban.  I won't apply other negative things that America or some other western country contains because you or others would probably drag it to some other new level.



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Reply #80 on: October 13, 2012, 01:11:13 am
Strange enough the exact text was posted in Dutch today on a Dutch newsblog.
Seems whoever is spreading has a good marketing machine.

As for the soldier... he shoots in the air not actually aimin at anything, runs down a hill without cover.
There are other far more effective methods to draw enemy fire as emulating a first time player in COD.

I don't believe he was shooting into the air I can't tell where the enemies are shooting at them from if it's like most fights there on the hill on the other side and judging the distance compensating for the Coriolis effect he is aiming at that other hill perfectly. And he was being covered by the rest of his group, the main evidence of that is the amount of dust that is coming from each side of him because he doesn't look back at the rest of the soldiers I can't say for certain.

After he was hit however he was only giving cover fire.



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Reply #81 on: October 13, 2012, 01:45:19 pm
I don't believe he was shooting into the air I can't tell where the enemies are shooting at them from if it's like most fights there on the hill on the other side and judging the distance compensating for the Coriolis effect he is aiming at that other hill perfectly. And he was being covered by the rest of his group, the main evidence of that is the amount of dust that is coming from each side of him because he doesn't look back at the rest of the soldiers I can't say for certain.

After he was hit however he was only giving cover fire.
TBH, it looks like the Taliban in this video have far better shooting skills than the actual soldier, if his cover fire was any good maybe he wouldn't have been being shot at, of course I've never been in combat with bullets flying everywhere, but my guess is I'de being giving cover fire from somewhere else not the actual cliff face they are shooing at, I'd also guess he was purposly trying to get shot in order to get out of the army sooner.. :redface:

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Reply #82 on: October 27, 2012, 12:12:16 pm
None of you clearly has any idea of what cover fire is.

The idea of covering fire is to gain attention on yourself by shooting. No one else was shooting except him, so he pretty much did provide covering fire.

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Reply #83 on: October 28, 2012, 02:51:57 am
TBH, it looks like the Taliban in this video have far better shooting skills than the actual soldier, if his cover fire was any good maybe he wouldn't have been being shot at, of course I've never been in combat with bullets flying everywhere, but my guess is I'de being giving cover fire from somewhere else not the actual cliff face they are shooing at, I'd also guess he was purposly trying to get shot in order to get out of the army sooner.. :redface:
when you're moving and shooting, its difficult tobe accurate with such a range. Those shooting at him were probably at a distance to be still and not moving, also probably covered enough to not be shot, otherwise cover fire might not have been needed in the first place.

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Reply #84 on: October 29, 2012, 12:52:36 pm
when you're moving and shooting, its difficult tobe accurate with such a range. Those shooting at him were probably at a distance to be still and not moving, also probably covered enough to not be shot, otherwise cover fire might not have been needed in the first place.
It's said the people higher up in a battle have the advantage, just strange how the US soldier was being a clown, such behavior shouldn't be tolerated, he should have been punished not called a hero, I mean if he's a hero then I'de like to see America's worst soldiers.. :roll:

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Reply #85 on: October 29, 2012, 08:34:56 pm
None of you clearly has any idea of what cover fire is.

The idea of covering fire is to gain attention on yourself by shooting. No one else was shooting except him, so he pretty much did provide covering fire.

No, you clearly have no idea what covering fire is.  Covering fire is basically suppressive fire,  used to decrease the accuracy of the enemy. If the enemy can't shoot accurately it dramatically decreases the chance he will hit you when he shoots at you. Also, when you provide covering fire, you don't run down a hill shooting randomly. Covering fire is to suppress the enemy so that a member or certain group can move to a position.

Saving Private Ryan - Covering Fire!



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Reply #86 on: October 29, 2012, 10:34:56 pm
No, you clearly have no idea what covering fire is.  Covering fire is basically suppressive fire,  used to decrease the accuracy of the enemy. If the enemy can't shoot accurately it dramatically decreases the chance he will hit you when he shoots at you. Also, when you provide covering fire, you don't run down a hill shooting randomly. Covering fire is to suppress the enemy so that a member or certain group can move to a position.

Saving Private Ryan - Covering Fire!
Using movies for an accurate description?

Either way, according to some googling, they are more-over synonymous but covering fire is not always a suppressive fire, it's still used more to gain attention instead. Which he did :).

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Reply #87 on: October 29, 2012, 11:26:50 pm
Using movies for an accurate description?

Quickest example I could find.

Must be one of the most stupid ways to get the enemies attention in a fire fight.



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Reply #88 on: November 01, 2012, 05:30:06 pm
What he did was indeed honorable, we cant blame him for his governments stupidity, he's just doing his duty. It's not his fault the government of his motherland is so oil-thirsty.

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