Is this right?

[Matt Murdock]

Says the person with 12 legitimate forum punishments in 6 months, all for flaming and trolling. Apply yourself.

.. and what exactly does any amount of punishment has to do with a person's opinion?

Get back on topic instead of provoking one another, people.

Presumption #4: Elitism.

That argument does not even make any sense. Not to mention that many ex-admins have more notable reasons for their being ex-admins.

Presumption #5.

An example of your flawed knowledge. Research on the history of the Idlewood ballas and their records with the administration, but that is a story for another time.

Your arguments are full of presumptions far detached from reality. Before trying to propose reform, do research on how things actually work. Not only will you look more sensible, but you'll also avoid presenting content that becomes a laughingstock.

Regarding that, you failed to see the point I was trying to make, which Gandalf and everybody else properly did.

I did not support any elitism or idlewood ballas, I just refrained from naming anyone from the current player base to prevent any confusion related to my words, I did not wish to differentiate anyone on basis of how many years they have given to the community, or how many rules they have broken.

Would you rather have me explain like this?

Example :
Lets imply, Kassis is a veteran player, and never broke a rule, so he should be given a chance.

Whereas, JDC is a veteran, but he often rulebreaks, so pretty obvious he can't be in the guest admin scenario.


Now if Kassis and you were reading this post, wouldn't that put Kassis on the high clouds but offended you at the same time? That's why I said what I said before. Their names were used just as examples and not to be taken seriously.


Anyhow, end this point as I already had the answer by Gandalf. You just continue to quote and provoke other to promote a verbal war so you can gain some extra posts..

[JDC]

.. and what exactly does any amount of punishment has to do with a person's opinion?

Just the same as what the result would be if Woka came here now and posted that DDoS'ing a server is bad and that no one should do it.

Regarding that, you failed to see the point I was trying to make, which Gandalf and everybody else properly did.

I did not support any elitism or idlewood ballas, I just refrained from naming anyone from the current player base to prevent any confusion related to my words, I did not wish to differentiate anyone on basis of how many years they have given to the community, or how many rules they have broken.

Would you rather have me explain like this?

Example :
Lets imply, Kassis is a veteran player, and never broke a rule, so he should be given a chance.

Whereas, JDC is a veteran, but he often rulebreaks, so pretty obvious he can't be in the guest admin scenario.

Now if Kassis and you were reading this post, wouldn't that put Kassis on the high clouds but offended you at the same time? That's why I said what I said before. Their names were used just as examples and not to be taken seriously.

Anyhow, end this point as I already had the answer by Gandalf. You just continue to quote and provoke other to promote a verbal war so you can gain some extra posts..

Not wish to differentiate? But that's exactly what you did.

(ofcourse, you must be qualified enough, like a veteran on the server

One or two + year old veterans might actually be smart enough to set into the moderator roles quite quick, no?

I'm not talking of giving everyone a chance to become an admin, but only elite people.

Your ideas were also shot down by "Gandalf and everyone else". It's up to you to continue valuing form over substance, and to fool yourself that someone is out for a verbal war simply because they have no intentions of coddling you or changing anyone's diapers.

And for the record, I've had my full share of extra posts long ago.


Anyway, the proper solution was already given plenty of times in this topic, as it was in many earlier topics of this genre. There is no more use for it, and the topic creator himself has admitted to it being a Players vs. Admins topic.

To reiterate: Report admins to their respective complaint emails and / or superiors. Posting topics and trying to negotiate the operations of the admin team will not help, and will only contribute to the problem instead of the solution.

Locked.