A WARNING for all - More 'rules' than you can easily find

[Gandalf]

Well, before that script was put in then. Anyway my point still stands.

Answering on topic when you have not played for some time is pretty dangerous....

[Pandalink]

Answering on topic when you have not played for some time is pretty dangerous....

Fair enough, but the problem has existed for several years, and certainly existed in a time when I was active. It never affected me as much as some people because I've read every single post in the dev answers thread since the date it was created, but for people joining after this time there can be confusion.

Look, I know that you're going for a simple list of rules, so that it doesn't become the essays that other servers have and actually expect people to remember, but you have to admit that the amount of exceptions to, and different interpretations of the rules can cause confusion.

[Kojak]

Unlike my colleagues here, I don't think that common sense is applicable when it comes to server rules; to me common sense is knowing not to walk in traffic, or stand in fire but not instinctively knowing what you can and cannot do in a SA:MP server especially if you are new to the game.

With that said however, the thing you all need to keep in mind is that Argonath is fairly unique in that is it very much a community game, not a pick up and play type game. Many of you have been part of the Argonath community for years regardless of how active you are in game and as such I expect you to know by now that we have to constantly adapt to the game and to the community.

I am always impressed with the levels of creativity shown by the community when it comes to bending or circumventing the rules, or manipulating a situation to their own advantage; that means the freedom we give you, relative to other RP servers, needs to be balanced by sometimes changing or adapting our interpretations of the rules, sometimes as a direct result of certain in-game incidents.

For that reason, while I am philosophically sympathetic to some of the concerns raised here, I must also completely support the sentiments of CBFASI's opening post. As long term members of the Argonath community you owe it yourselves to keep up to date with developments when it comes to our expectations of reasonable game play and it is also expected that you consider whether your actions are in tune with the community at large. Therefore, while it may not specifically state in the rules that spawn killing is not allowed for example, had you taken an active interest in what people like Gandalf and Aragorn as well as other members of HQ had been saying for years the doubt and confusion that some of you claim to be present would not exist to the same extent.

I do feel that summarising some of the posts in Developer's Answers would be helpful, and I do feel that some rules should be crystal clear, and that is something we will work on. But I also feel that you have an obligation to keep yourself up to date with the official position taken by the owners and developers given the special and unique nature of this game.

[Kirgiz]

Unlike my colleagues here, I don't think that common sense is applicable when it comes to server rules; to me common sense is knowing not to walk in traffic, or stand in fire but not instinctively knowing what you can and cannot do in a SA:MP server especially if you are new to the game.

Exactly my thoughts.
Post Merge: May 19, 2013, 01:55:27 pm

I am always impressed with the levels of creativity shown by the community when it comes to bending or circumventing the rules, or manipulating a situation to their own advantage;

But then it sounds like you haven't been in the adult world at all.

[TiMoN]

Viewing that topic and asking for assistance isn't a reason of you being called a coward, rules are set so everyone could enjoy. Asking for assistance doesn't make you an ignorant or lowers your dignity, in fact, it's a way of learning. The bad thing is, none is remembered by the rules he/she follows, I barely hear people talking about people who had no punishment for an X amount of time. Always talking about what X person did to get banned and what X person did to get punished.

"You are remembered for the rules you break." —Douglas MacArthur