Adressing to all Argonath RPG SAMP Players and Admins

[albertlau128]

Hello everyone,

To introduce myself, I am [ADF]Ronald_Rosso in game.

So what I want to address is that, the constant rulebreaking and forcing to roleplay, and also the limits of the "realms of roleplay".

First of all, deathmatching, as I have already mentioned a million times in the essays before, I feel fustrated, seeing that deathmatching rate is even more than the roleplay'ers. I will have to talk about my experience today. I jailed a criminal on cop duty, and he returned by attempting to kidnap me. I refused to go into his car and they started shooting. In what rule that it is allowed? "Forcing someone to roleplay isn't allowed" I said, and yes, our President Gandalf said that "If you don't want to roleplay, leave." Yes, I agree with it, but what about the kidnappers shooting me? What about the revenge killing attempt?

Just afterwards, I went to the kidnappers and negotiate with them. We were arguing and I punch him in his face once (/me slaps his face). He then attempted to kidnap me again, which I refused to comply with them. I tried to run. They kept shooting me. Well... I was disengaged and I was trying to run. Isn't that deathmatching? I have reported and what I receive is something... I don't want to mention it.

So, what's the realm of roleplay? Can we refuse other people when they are asking to roleplay? Can they return fire if I refuse to do so? Or it would be like cops and robbers, kidnappers everywhere, killing innocent civilians. Why? Why should the community be like this?

Regards,
Ronald Rosso

[Vector]

Well if you have jailed him in this manner He can come back and take revenge as he was not dead.  I am giving you the example of movies.

When a criminal jailed by any officer for a particular time period. The after getting out from the prison criminal can get his revenge by kidnapping or killing as well.

Its a part of roleplay that you jailed a guy and he came to take revenge and you can not refuse to roleplay in this situation. You have roleplayed with him earlier now you have to.

Why you went and meet them after you died? it was your mistake and you deserve a punishment of (Returning after death) in this sort of situation. And as they killed you again or shoot you it is a DM but admins will take your neck not their cause you returned after death.

But, as you said they roleplayed again and you tried to run then they can kill or shoot you.

[eymas]

Well if you have jailed him in this manner He can come back and take revenge as he was not dead.

Once a suspect's jailed; the scene's over. meaning he cannot return after that.

[Ethan.]

Why not Leon, it's not like he died or something. The suspect could probably say " imma find you one day once I'm released from jail! Watch your back boi "

[KelviNC]

Good one there Ronald, I my self is agains't this thing. The server name is "ARGONATH RPG" but there is less RP and more DM. I would like to prefer that the should be a force RP, and that will lower that rate for DMing.

And Ethan, that is also a good idea but I have one negetive point there, our some of the officer do that they jail the suspect, and /exit from there only. So there is no reason to RP. This don't give the suspect to RP also.

I would like to add one thing to the note that. No one should be allowed to exit from any where, accept the the door, that breaks the RP.
Or to make it more RPistic, you can just have one Yellow mark at the door, from where we can only exit.

[Brian]

I would like to notify this

- Nothing wrong with kidnapping, if you do not want to be kidnapped, do not get in public. Lock yourself in your house
- Suspect may continue to shoot and kill if you run away, they may not follow you and kill you, thats cop hunting. But if you run away after a gunfight/they shoot you, they may continue to shoot, as far as I have been told.
- Again, nothing wrong with kidnapping, if people get jailed they may go and kidnap you if they get mad.

[Pazienza]

So what I want to address is that, the constant rulebreaking and forcing to roleplay, and also the limits of the "realms of roleplay".

First of all, deathmatching, as I have already mentioned a million times in the essays before, I feel fustrated, seeing that deathmatching rate is even more than the roleplay'ers.

There have been many topics like this before, but you still fail to sence the difference between constructive criticism and moaning.

I'll tell you to address your complaint about Deathmatching to [email protected]

Can we refuse other people when they are asking to roleplay?
Why? Why should the community be like this?

If you don't feel like roleplaying, why would you even spend your time on a RP server.

There are two things you can do about it - help us improve it or leave it. But honestly with this topic you aren't helping at all

[Slavik]

I don't think people should come back after cops to kidnap them, i mean it seems like copbaiting.

Something extra....When you grow weed and you see someone has come to steal your weed or something, don't Deathmatch them. Because /l leave" is NOT RolePlay. We have a lot of complains saying this person DMed me, when we investigate people say I told him to "Leave 3 times, it was RP".
I don't see how "Leave" is RP.

[Vitoo]

but what about the kidnappers shooting me? What about the revenge killing attempt?

Just afterwards, I went to the kidnappers and negotiate with them. We were arguing and I punch him in his face once (/me slaps his face).He then attempted to kidnap me again, which I refused to comply with them. I tried to run. They kept shooting me. Well... I was disengaged and I was trying to run.

I have nothing else to add.

[Sergio.]

you had just post this regarding for your punishments today, you are mad, but argonath every time was like this a bit unfair

[Thom]

'I started shouting' Well it wasn't a forced RP. You roleplayed and then refused. 'Gandalf said balbla' when you have panic in RP and started shouting,accept the RP or just don't RP and mention the rule.

[albertlau128]

when you have panic in RP and started shouting,accept the RP or just don't RP and mention the rule.

Then why not /q if you don't wanna RP as so?

you had just post this regarding for your punishments today, you are mad, but argonath every time was like this a bit unfair

And no, I am not regarding on my punishment history. It is a common problem. Everyone knows that, but noone adressed it.

There are two things you can do about it - help us improve it or leave it. But honestly with this topic you aren't helping at all

Well... Most of the people are doing the wrong thing. “The only people who can change the world are people who want to. And not everybody does.” ― Hugh MacLeod.

Good one there Ronald, I my self is agains't this thing. The server name is "ARGONATH RPG" but there is less RP and more DM. I would like to prefer that the should be a force RP, and that will lower that rate for DMing.

I am happy that eventually some players notice this problem.

[Pazienza]

You asked few questions, and you got your answer from admins.
Moaning about a problem or pointing it out the way you are doing doesn't help at all as I said before, but only causes more whining - hence I don't see a reason to keep this topic open for 'discussion'

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