Why is oppression being enforced on unofficial groups?

[Huntsman]

Lol, I am quite surprised you want to co-operate with the SAPD and not walk around killing their members. Clearly, you're not a fan. :<

Perhaps, you should start a criminal organization instead?

Because I love being a police officer? Not to mention that I'm involved with police IRL as well 

Your point is invalid.
To become a police officer in Estonia you need to complete Estonian Academy of Security Sciences.

Same in Lithuania, if you want to be a regular patrolsman, you can finish 12 grades and then go straight to the academy, but you wont be able to rank up higher than "Officer". If you want to reach higher in your career, you can finish the Law School of Mykolas Riomeris in Kaunas and then you can become either a constable, an investigator or a patrolsman.

[Kirgiz]

VSD is an abbreviation for an illness. GAI was renamed to GIBDD in '98; DPS is a part of GIBDD.
Russia, Estonia, some other post-soviet countries. You and me, of all people here, know it's true. 

Oh you

Your point is invalid.
To become a police officer in Estonia you need to complete Estonian Academy of Security Sciences.

Kaitseliit.

[Mario_Rinna]

Your point is invalid.
To become a police officer in Estonia you need to complete Estonian Academy of Security Sciences.

Definitely not the case in fantastic towns like K-J or Narva. Let's take it to PM if you wish to discuss this further.

[Bundy]

As I told you before, there were a lot of people who wanted to join, but they couldn't , because SAPD didn't allow unofficial divisions to recruit their members or applicants.

Then why don't they leave SAPD and join your division? It's not worth leaving?

[Huntsman]

Then why don't they leave SAPD and join your division? It's not worth leaving?

I'm sorry to say that, but your questions are really stupid, it appears you're replying here to show what a "smartass" you are, rather than debating something, anyways, you're representative of the criminal word, I dont even see how it concerns you.

And to answer your question - use logic - would you choose something, which offers roleplay, but no official support whatsoever, or something that gives you a dark blue name, gets rid of your "newbie" status, gives you a rank and free SMG? You can bullshit me you would "prefer RP over script support" all you want, but you'd just be lying to yourself. Before the block against unofficial groups, people could enjoy both.

[Lionel Valdes]

good topic,

Sincerely yours,
Ex SAPD
Ex ARTP
Ex BCSD
Current RCSD Sheriff (on hiatus)

[Bundy]

I'm sorry to say that, but your questions are really stupid, it appears you're replying here to show what a "smartass" you are, rather than debating something, anyways, you're representative of the criminal word, I dont even see how it concerns you.

And to answer your question - use logic - would you choose something, which offers roleplay, but no official support whatsoever, or something that gives you a dark blue name, gets rid of your "newbie" status, gives you a rank and free SMG? You can bullshit me you would "prefer RP over script support" all you want, but you'd just be lying to yourself. Before the block against unofficial groups, people could enjoy both.

Sad you have to insult in order to argumentate your statements. Since when criminal RP-ers can't discuss topics concerning police? Some sort of new rule?

As for your question - I'd choose for the one offering me most RP opportunities, which I've been doing so far and is great fun. Seemingly people prefer SAPD over your group and that's nothing you can blame them for.

[Ben.]

I  had a grand old time in BCSD - We enjoyed a prosperous relationship with LVPD and BCPD, and SAPD members used to knowledge share...which I'd say was helpful to the SAPD!

I'd enjoy doing what I did, again. At the end of the day, that's what matters

[Lionel Valdes]

I  had a grand old time in BCSD - We enjoyed a prosperous relationship with LVPD and BCPD, and SAPD members used to knowledge share...which I'd say was helpful to the SAPD!

I'd enjoy doing what I did, again. At the end of the day, that's what matters

speechless

[Teddy]

A few bad eggs put limits on everyone else.

We have had time after time police groups directly created to combat the ARPD, some event recently, refused to respond to calls including 207s simply because it was ARPD officers or those in the ARPD umbrella calling it in. We also can't forget two infamous groups from a few years ago. As Ronnel said, competition.

the point:
In order to combat crime we need a unified, established force who uses teamwork rather a competitive market of groups trying to be "#1" police group. Time after time we've been shown we cannot have unified force overall while permitting such unofficial groups.

[Pingster]

Or maybe you could name a country in which you can just walk into your local police department and open an "unofficial police division?"

So when it's convenient, we compare Argonath to RL, but when it's not, we yell that this isn't RL?

And in response to Teddy...

In order to combat crime, sure. What about in order to experience something new, something different, something more complicated than chasing suspects and shooting them? Yes, you can do that in SAPD, but you've got a ton of regulations on your head if you do, some of which may limit what you're trying to achieve.

RS5 seems to have that "New beginnings" thing going on quite a bit, what with likely (judging by the responses in other topics) money and estate reset, yet one thing remains, first come first serve as far as unofficial police groups turning into official ones go. Right now the only way you can get your idea an official one is to achieve high rank in SAPD and proposing a new division you might lead.

And sure, I realise that having 10 groups that won't respond to a call because they're established in Blueberry and won't move away is not a good thing, but at least cut some slack, offer some script support and relieve them of some regulations if they restrict them if you are able to propose something good, something that won't combat current police force, but will enhance it, make it better.

Cheers.

[Teddy]

In order to combat crime, sure. What about in order to experience something new, something different, something more complicated than chasing suspects and shooting them? Yes, you can do that in SAPD, but you've got a ton of regulations on your head if you do, some of which may limit what you're trying to achieve.

There is nothing that prevents you from trying something new, regulations are limits in which are placed to protect citizens rights and create a level of respect. If your "new experience" can't stay within those limits anyways then it wouldn't last long as an unofficial group and would be forcefully closed.

[Mario_Rinna]

So when it's convenient, we compare Argonath to RL, but when it's not, we yell that this isn't RL?

Who's "we?"

[Pingster]

Who's "we?"

The community. Why do you avoid the question?

[Mario_Rinna]

The community. Why do you avoid the question?

I fail to see how the community's relevant here.

The answer is no.