RS4-RS5

[Jaka_Lah]

I understand your point but don't forget that we are talking about a game.

RS4 had many flaws that they fixed in RS5, oh you want starter money so you transfer it to your acc? HAHA no.
RS5 went over and beyond to make the rest of SAMP enjoyable for us, untill the server turns into VCMP and nobody plays it anymore.
It is complicated at the beginning, heck it's complicated in the middle and in the end but somehow we will get used to it, the scripters wasted countless hours on this and they did it for free, we can take a few hours to learn how the new system works, it might not be noob friendly but the ones who will learn will want to stay, because the comunity has a way of grabbing you and placing you in here, because united we stand, against so many ddosers, hackers, people faking the server and stealing it scripts, if people think RS5 will break the comunity.. good on them, it's just another bump that we will drive through. Even though some people I guess won't stand the hit and will rage quit because of RS5 but that's just how it is. I was told so many stories about how fun MTA VC was and now it's a wasteland, when our time comes we will be telling the IV:MP generation our stories, how it was back in Los Santos. Gahh I don't want this server to end.

[Mario_Alfonso]

I fixed it, because you don't speak for the community.

What you just said is completely invalid and slightly mindless, I speak for the members of the community i have already witnessed wanting RS4, You on the other hand sit in your room being completely happy because you're a manager.

If you gave a shit i'd take notice in what you just said, but considering right now i'm the only one out of us listening to the community's opinions i'd rather ignore it.

And @Gandalf

Thank-you for giving us the option at-least, If the donations don't go to 400 euro's, I'm more than happy to leave it at that and myself and those who wish to will be leaving, though I can't say if we won't return, after-all this is our community as-well as yours.

All I can say is thank-you for actually taking the time to give us a chance at-least.

[Ben.]

To all those who want RS4 back, here is your challenge.
If you REALLY want to bring it back, I will make a deal.

Make donations stating 'I want RS4' and as soon as this reaches Eur 400, I will open a RS4 server, however there will be NO ASSETS and NO ACCOU?NTS. Fro mthe current admin team there will be a RS4 team formed, and while the player count stays above 200 per day (that means in 24 hours, not needing to have 200 players online at the same time) it will remain up.

Now either put up or shut up.

Loving it. The best is how reasonable it is...
If the Alfonso's all chip in Eur15, which in the great scheme of things isn't that much, they can have what they demand...until it's proved that the thing people really don't like is losing cash and assets.
It'd be good to see people putting money where their mouths are!

I'm here for the community mainly...and last time I checked, building up your assets is a lot more fun than sitting on ones you've had for years, so it doesn't bother me 

[Mario_Alfonso]

Loving it. The best is how reasonable it is...
If the Alfonso's all chip in Eur15, which in the great scheme of things isn't that much, they can have what they demand...until it's proved that the thing people really don't like is losing cash and assets.
It'd be good to see people putting money where their mouths are!

I'm here for the community mainly...and last time I checked, building up your assets is a lot more fun than sitting on ones you've had for years, so it doesn't bother me 

I'm not fighting for my assets, Even having my Roleplay position as a don, i had like $8k and a $35k car.

I have no need to worry about that, Anyhow, In a couple of weeks "During my holidays" I'll spent a week working, hopefully then I can pay all the cash towards RS4.

[Kirgiz]

Yes. Change is always for the better, even if you don't think it is, which kind of proves Phil's point.

And please don't start giving me RL examples where change is bad (to you), 'cause it will take a while to prove that whatever the case, no one makes changes just to screw with people.

They tried to change Afghanistan's government, Libya's government, Egypts government. Where's good in that?

I'm not even talking about giving women rights...

[Manoni]

Honestly, i don't know why people is making this topics and neither why the forum staff is letting them unlocked.

[Ben.]

I'm not fighting for my assets, Even having my Roleplay position as a don, i had like $8k and a $35k car.

I have no need to worry about that, Anyhow, In a couple of weeks "During my holidays" I'll spent a week working, hopefully then I can pay all the cash towards RS4.

In your defense, you shouldn't be paying the whole eur400 - if others you know want it that badly, they should be chipping in too :-)

[Axison]

Anyhow, In a couple of weeks "During my holidays" I'll spent a week working, hopefully then I can pay all the cash towards RS4.

Really?, that's sick. Not saying that you shouldn't donate but if you are doing it for only RS4 and your 20 member "family" while RS5 is almost on its way for release then I have a feeling that you are retarded.

Its just a game, we are here to have fun.

[Petarda]

Its just a game, we are here to have fun[/font][/size].

He wants to have fun too.

[Chase]

I most certainly wish I had 400 eur laying around to waste...

[Pingster]

What you just said is completely invalid

Really, who voted you the community's spokesman?

You on the other hand sit in your room being completely happy because you're a manager.

That's it, my life is complete, I am completely happy now. Thank god for my room.

If you gave a shit i'd take notice in what you just said, but considering right now i'm the only one out of us listening to the community's opinions i'd rather ignore it.

Contradiction alert! I didn't notice myself leaving the community.


Now, on a serious note, what does make me happy is that your best jabs at me are extremely weak. What does upset me, however, is that you continue to assume that "the community" wants RS4 back because of the vocal veterans that have been annoying the hell out of people (and your 20-30 members of Alfonso, who happened to avoid playing RS4 for the past month or so, unless I somehow missed them among the 45 players most people claim still play), while at the same time dismissing opinions of the members of community who don't want RS4 back.

Anyway, best of luck with your plans for RS4. Remember that there's a no refund policy on donations, so make sure that the "community" actually are going to stay there for long enough to warrant the investment, instead of moving over to RS5 which is going to continue getting full-on support.

[Vitoo]

Really, who voted you the community's spokesman?

I guess by community he means those who wish to stay on RS4.

[Hyuga.]

Mario, you're fighting vigorously to bring back RS4. I was wondering if you could you think of atleast 3 strong arguments why RS4 is better than RS5?

[Axison]

He wants to have fun too.

RS5 is way more fun, it's just that you guys are not used to it.

[Gandalf]

Honestly, i don't know why people is making this topics and neither why the forum staff is letting them unlocked.

We leave the topic unlocked because unlike other communities we do not disallow people to challenge our ideas and discuss.
Argonath RPG offers the freedom to disagree with the owners and staff, and as long as it is done more or less respectful we will read your arguments and reply with ours. Sure we can tell that if you do not like it you have the possibility to leave. But that does not mean we feel the need to cut off your right of expressing your opinion.

That is what makes Argonath unique, as in as good as any other community similar topics would be removed or locked, giving people who are new the idea everyone agrees on all counts.
We are aware people use this against us at times, throwing negtivity around to show to others how much we don't care. The point is we care enough to let people speak their minds. That in the end we make the decisions is because we are owners, not because we do not care.