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Reply #240 on: December 23, 2013, 11:12:06 pm
The point is not to be difficult but to be a little harder with more effort being made by everyone equally not just with drugs.
Sure, little harder and effort made by everyone. How about we assign every player one square of the map to patrol every hour or so, in case there's a drug spot there? Once we get to around 50, we can stop. Effort by everyone and a little harder.


...Seriously though.


We need to put aside the egos of both the leadership/management/players too because ultimately we have one objective, which is to ensure the prosperity of our community.


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Reply #241 on: December 23, 2013, 11:45:19 pm
I tried RS5 and initial experience was pleasant, but it was abruptly ended by a situation, where a officer was doing this "road check" at that point I was like: " sure whatever, trying if RS4 scenarios still work, whatever" then another officer just came close to me, said nothing, just pickpocketed ran away with 1.6k. the one who stopped me then also pickpocketed and ran away with 600$ and after that I was: " f**k it, if a freaking officer can just pickpocket any civilian without any actual P2P interaction, well I don't see myself enjoying roleplaying in this server."

Now I don't know how was the pickpocketing supposed to work or even if it still exist, but yeah...

I honestly cannot say if that will stay or not at the moment there are a couple of things wrong with it. Money is something that your supposed to work for this time around not something easily gained. Yes I know there is some sort of luck when it comes to pickpocketing but it can still be easily done and misused like you mentioned.



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Reply #242 on: December 23, 2013, 11:47:59 pm
Sure, little harder and effort made by everyone. How about we assign every player one square of the map to patrol every hour or so, in case there's a drug spot there? Once we get to around 50, we can stop. Effort by everyone and a little harder.


...Seriously though.

I know there's a weird way of how it works at the moment but I was trying to get at the earning money aspect of everything on the server. RS3 RS4 money was practically given to you on a silver platter... it was easily 'earned'.



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Reply #243 on: December 24, 2013, 12:22:04 am
RS3 RS4 money was practically given to you on a silver platter... it was easily 'earned'.
that's literally untrue

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Reply #244 on: December 24, 2013, 04:45:34 am
I tried RS5 and initial experience was pleasant, but it was abruptly ended by a situation, where a officer was doing this "road check" at that point I was like: " sure whatever, trying if RS4 scenarios still work, whatever" then another officer just came close to me, said nothing, just pickpocketed ran away with 1.6k. the one who stopped me then also pickpocketed and ran away with 600$ and after that I was: " f**k it, if a freaking officer can just pickpocket any civilian without any actual P2P interaction, well I don't see myself enjoying roleplaying in this server."

Now I don't know how was the pickpocketing supposed to work or even if it still exist, but yeah...

Server rules now include no pickpocketing without RP. /report if some jackass just grabs and runs for no reason, you'll get the money back.

Thus beware when no admins are online...


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Reply #245 on: December 24, 2013, 05:32:16 am
that's literally untrue

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Reply #246 on: December 24, 2013, 05:57:46 am
that's literally untrue
Sadly it was very true I think that out of allot of people who could hold the merit to say that it is true I should have a fairly practical voice.  The actual conditions of RS4 are only known to an extent but estimates contained from BSF during its operations indicate a very big problem with the RS4 economy before and after the injection of 354,000,000 that BSF added to the economy during it's operation the reality though is that money represents a smaller fraction of the total gross value of RS4 and even the injected money the reality was the economy was undervalued and over inflated there is no getting around the fact that money for the most part was easily achievable and in abundance. 



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Reply #247 on: December 24, 2013, 06:15:34 am
Sadly it was very true I think that out of allot of people who could hold the merit to say that it is true I should have a fairly practical voice.  The actual conditions of RS4 are only known to an extent but estimates contained from BSF during its operations indicate a very big problem with the RS4 economy before and after the injection of 354,000,000 that BSF added to the economy during it's operation the reality though is that money represents a smaller fraction of the total gross value of RS4 and even the injected money the reality was the economy was undervalued and over inflated there is no getting around the fact that money for the most part was easily achievable and in abundance. 

It will happen to RS5 if they do not accept my advice of an Alternative reliable economy - Gold.

I have years of financial experience, back from when I was selling bubble gum, sweets and Drinks and later crack cocaine (no not really), in the playground. 


  I quickly learned that if I just collected money I may end up just losing it. So I told my parents if I could put it somewhere which would keep it safe, they said, well, we don't trust the banks but we think you should probably buy something, they said Gold or Bonds.

I only had £200. But the value went up very nicely.

Do I need to explain this?
Come on use my idea.

Even if you wanted to use "Plastic Bars" instead of "Gold" and made 100 uses for Gold it'd be just as good and would actually add value.
I.e. Plastic needed for creating parts in guns, radio, phone, car repairs, food packaging, clothing... The list is endless.


Gandalf, take one thing from real world economy (which the real world failed badly in) - just printing it doesn't make it valuable, having it backed up against an object means it'll be worth it.

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Reply #248 on: December 24, 2013, 06:18:51 am
It will happen to RS5 if they do not accept my advice of an Alternative reliable economy - Gold.

I have years of financial experience, back from when I was selling bubble gum, sweets and Drinks and later crack cocaine (no not really), in the playground. 


  I quickly learned that if I just collected money I may end up just losing it. So I told my parents if I could put it somewhere which would keep it safe, they said, well, we don't trust the banks but we think you should probably buy something, they said Gold.

Do I need to explain this?
Come on use my idea.

Even if you wanted to use "Plastic Bars" instead of "Gold" and made 100 uses for Gold it'd be just as good and would actually add value.
I.e. Plastic needed for creating parts in guns, radio, phone, car repairs, food packaging, clothing... The list is endless.


Gandalf, take one thing from real world economy (which the real world failed badly in) - just printing it doesn't make it valuable, having it backed up against an object means it'll be worth it.

Actually Monte, this idea was considered by private entities during RS4 in a much different way but the reason these practices work in real world is because in the real world has a limited amount of gold where as online whenever we felt the need we could just stimulate the reserves it will not simply work.

And for the record we live in a world of FIAT Currency no country on earth has gold backing it up.



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Reply #249 on: December 24, 2013, 06:25:17 am
Actually Monte, this idea was considered by private entities during RS4 in a much different way but the reason these practices work in real world is because in the real world has a limited amount of gold where as online whenever we felt the need we could just stimulate the reserves it will not simply work.

And for the record we live in a world of FIAT Currency no country on earth has gold backing it up.

That's what lead to the financial collapse.

The private entity's flopped because they couldn't do nothing with 50k of weed and heroin.
It was more of a status symbol.

If Gold was implemented there are easy ways to make it work.


I can guarantee you that this planet we live on does not have so little gold as they say, but is jam packed with it. They don't know what's deep in the ground. The real value is it's diverse use and individual qualities. Gold can easily be made a legal right by the UN as it is needed in many other areas.
Area includes The right to internet, right to clean drinking water. Gold plays a part in the physical delivery of those.


It doesn't take a genius to work out how it can be implemented.

We have bone county quarry, and the only time it was used was when I was the first contract holder of BSF and made Industrial Corporation - we role played mining there. Then the idea died when BSF threatened to sue me? Do you remember this? If so I hate you. 

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Reply #250 on: December 24, 2013, 12:58:08 pm
I tried RS5 and initial experience was pleasant, but it was abruptly ended by a situation, where a officer was doing this "road check" at that point I was like: " sure whatever, trying if RS4 scenarios still work, whatever" then another officer just came close to me, said nothing, just pickpocketed ran away with 1.6k. the one who stopped me then also pickpocketed and ran away with 600$ and after that I was: " f**k it, if a freaking officer can just pickpocket any civilian without any actual P2P interaction, well I don't see myself enjoying roleplaying in this server."

Now I don't know how was the pickpocketing supposed to work or even if it still exist, but yeah...
now that gives me an idea!

that's literally untrue

no u!!!!!

Server rules now include no pickpocketing without RP. /report if some jackass just grabs and runs for no reason, you'll get the money back.

Thus beware when no admins are online...

Now that's funny. Every time some script idea was brought up in the ideas board, if it was similar to some sorts of interaction out of RP it was always bashed by JDC and co. (higher ups like Gendalf included) with the maxim "JUST RP IT!!!!!". Time flies by in a ridiculous fashion.

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Reply #251 on: December 24, 2013, 03:50:22 pm
Sadly it was very true I think that out of allot of people who could hold the merit to say that it is true I should have a fairly practical voice.
But based on your forum profile you joined the server over 3 years after the script release. Was RS3 even still out then?

That's not even comparable to RS5 right now, it's like you joining in 2017 and saying "earning money in RS5 is super easy". No shit, everyone is rich already.

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Reply #252 on: December 24, 2013, 10:46:15 pm
that's literally untrue
because getting 50k for a month for doing nothing is difficult. Sorry, 50k per BSF Scheme roleplay group.

Or the wonderful lottos.


We need to put aside the egos of both the leadership/management/players too because ultimately we have one objective, which is to ensure the prosperity of our community.


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Reply #253 on: December 25, 2013, 12:40:05 am
because getting 50k for a month for doing nothing is difficult. Sorry, 50k per BSF Scheme roleplay group.

Or the wonderful lottos.
Well I dunno about all that stuff, you're a relatively new player that didn't play in RS3 or the start of RS4 and that's what I was talking about. Especially RS3, where only cops could make money direct from script.

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Reply #254 on: December 25, 2013, 03:07:37 am
Well I dunno about all that stuff, you're a relatively new player that didn't play in RS3 or the start of RS4 and that's what I was talking about. Especially RS3, where only cops could make money direct from script.
So I guess it's quite obvious Ted wasn't referring to that period then


We need to put aside the egos of both the leadership/management/players too because ultimately we have one objective, which is to ensure the prosperity of our community.


 


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