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[TheLegitHabibi]

I've seen many group leaders who are dense, but this one just took the cake.

Go into a muslim country and start a brotherhood named "Fuckislam Brotherhood" because the term "Fuckislam" means friendship to you for some reason. Pretty stupid idea and the locals are sure to despise you for it, right?

That's basically what you did here. Get some common sense, please.

Is the name if my group FuckJDC Brotherhood? Is it called CUNTArgo Homies. Is it called BitchSugarD? No.

Woka is a Somalian name which we came up with because Ethan is Somalian in real life. And it means friendship.

Everything is not a joke OK, a manager posted here and I'm talking ithh him on PM. And you're just here to provoke people, increase your post count and idk what. Please stop.

[Jaka_Lah]

I've seen many group leaders who are dense, but this one just took the cake.

Go into a muslim country and start a brotherhood named "Fuckislam Brotherhood" because the term "Fuckislam" means friendship to you for some reason. Pretty stupid idea and the locals are sure to despise you for it, right?

That's basically what you did here. Get some common sense, please.

Not exatcly, by that logic they're making a group called Fuck Argonath.. they aren't, they're just praising an idea, which is Woka, depending how you look at it, it's the same as if you went to America nad made the 9/11 group, why 9/11? because every member's birthday would be on 9/11, it isn't a bad thing if you forget about the horrible terroristic attack that thousands lost their lives in, it's just a number, just like Woka is just a word.. It's all about prespective

[Phil]

Just to broaden things up a bit.. I spoke to Ethan on skype James explaining why. I expected him to relay the message as well as some others.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Not exatcly, by that logic they're making a group called f**k Argonath.. they aren't, they're just praising an idea, which is Woka, depending how you look at it, it's the same as if you went to America nad made the 9/11 group, why 9/11? because every member's birthday would be on 9/11, it isn't a bad thing if you forget about the horrible terroristic attack that thousands lost their lives in, it's just a number, just like Woka is just a word.. It's all about prespective

Yes exactly, thank you.

[JDC]

Not exatcly, by that logic they're making a group called f**k Argonath.. they aren't, they're just praising an idea, which is Woka, depending how you look at it, it's the same as if you went to America nad made the 9/11 group, why 9/11? because every member's birthday would be on 9/11, it isn't a bad thing if you forget about the horrible terroristic attack that thousands lost their lives in, it's just a number, just like Woka is just a word.. It's all about prespective

As much as I doubt the capability of their brain cells, we all know full well that they are not dumb enough NOT to know at all that going into a community and putting up a group with a flag / symbol of something that attacked that community is totally NOT going to be offensive at all.

The topic deserved its lock, and under such obvious circumstances, Zaila should not be obligated to explain.

[Axison]

I've seen many group leaders who are dense, but this one just took the cake.

Go into a muslim country and start a brotherhood named "Fuckislam Brotherhood" because the term "Fuckislam" means friendship to you for some reason. Pretty stupid idea and the locals are sure to despise you for it, right?

That's basically what you did here. Get some common sense, please.

Can you just fucking not?, Where did Muslims come from in this topic? Can't you give another example?

[Jaka_Lah]

Can you just f**king not?, Where did Muslims come from in this topic? Can't you give another example?

I didn't insult a religion in the last hour! Are you proud of me?

[TheLegitHabibi]

Hi JDC.
I'm currently talking to a manager and we will actually change the name and start a roleplay initiative.
Previously we were also simply posting on the forums, but I think actually doing something will give the community much more.

I don't think we need to go into a not needed argument since everything seems to be solved.

[Axison]

I didn't insult a religion in the last hour! Are you proud of me?

Couldn't he just give another example?. you guys are really starting to piss me off.

[TheLegitHabibi]

My post did not get approved unfortunately. I'll try to put it more nicely.

It would make sense if my groups name was f**kArgo or f**kJDC.
But not really no. Were not against a person or religion or the server.
The name happened to be a hated one and thus we're changing it.

@ Post updated as requested by moderated user.

[JDC]

Can you just f**king not?, Where did Muslims come from in this topic? Can't you give another example?

Couldn't he just give another example?. you guys are really starting to piss me off.

As you seem to be offended by even the idea of Muslims being used as an arbitrary example, you should understand now how it feels for loyal Argonathians to see a group throwing around the banner of someone who tried their best (and failed) to take down this community.

Now how about someone going into a Jewish community and making a group called "Sons of Hitler" /  "Hitler Lovers" because Hitler means friendship to them for some reason. Satisfied by another example now?

[Phil]

JDC it isn't OK to go and post examples which say f**kIslam.

Review your personal messages about why I haven't acted on that.
Additionally, topic has been moved to Speakerbox as its not game server specific.

[Axison]

As you seem to be offended by even the idea of Muslims being used as an arbitrary example, you should understand now how it feels for loyal Argonathians to see a group throwing around the banner of someone who tried their best (and failed) to take down this community.

Now how about someone going into a Jewish community and making a group called "Sons of Hitler" /  "Hitler Lovers" because Hitler means friendship to them for some reason. Satisfied by another example now?

Why was religion even mentioned at the first place?, I did not want you to go and make examples about religion as you are making me look like a racist. I wast offended only because you mentioned Muslims somewhere in their, i am offended now as well because you are just trying to offend other religions too. Just................................... ...........  don't.

[JDC]

For clarification purposes, I do not have any hate towards Islam or Judaism. Yet despite being an irreligious person, I have friends from all the major religions and do not discriminate with affiliation as a basis.

The purpose of the analogy was to point out how absurd it is to go into a community and start a "brotherhood" using a name that is offensive for the members of that community because of reasons connected to it.

From the reactions, I guess the examples worked.

As for James, if you took offense from them, then you should have considered Argonathians before deciding to start a brotherhood named after Woka... do you understand now, or do you need more analogies?

[Jaka_Lah]

Why was religion even mentioned at the first place?, I did not want you to go and make examples about religion as you are making me look like a racist. I wast offended only because you mentioned Muslims somewhere in their, i am offended now as well because you are just trying to offend other religions too. Just................................... ...........  don't.

Let's not even mention religions, the deed has been done, let's not go down the rabit hole that the prime minister dying topic is going.. never argue religion is one of my rules.
Let's not continue this, please..