[ GTA IV ] A few limitations to jobs in general.. if passport=NO

[Mihail Junkovich]

Sue Gvardia suggested that maybe jobs should get a bit of limitations if a player does not have a passport. 


So for example, if a player does not have a passport as a freecop he can not /su.. but he can still /jail and /cuff
After player receives passport [ The general confirmation that he "understands" the rules at least a bit ] then.. he can get access to some other commands

The newcomers will just get the limitation to some specific commands but will not get totally restricted to it.. they will just need to show that they do understand the rules in order to get access to the rest. Is that interfering with Argonath Vision? 


Limitations suggested:

/duty - /su, police heli

/driver - heli

/fireman - heli

[Joseph]

Yeah that's right, I agree with u

[DeeJay]

So basicly you just want them to register to our server, do nothing and leave? I have seen alot of people who has a passport who are useless at flying, using their /duty properly and /su. So I disagree to this

[Mihail Junkovich]

The general confirmation that he "understands" the rules at least a bit

Guess that those who do that and have a passport should be a bit more strictly punished as they did go through rules and whole complicated process of understanding them [ I know I did had a porcess like that ]

There is always a lot of players who do have a carkill or dm as a crime and are not reported or dealt by admin..
Also a lot of players with passports do go on duty and do /su occasionally..

So they will absolutely have no issues with "do nothing" part by my opinion

[BojanS]

Interesting idea. I would agree mostly with limiting /su for Officers that do not have passport.

I wouldn't give fictive examples like: "How it would be" if anything was implemented.

/supported /su for Officers that do not have passport.

[luckyluke98]

its a good idea becuse   some new cops su me and jailed me for nothing like a boy called NORI omg he supspected me   for lukyluke xD

[KhornateMonkey]

"Argonath gives equal rights to new, experienced and admin players. We do not discriminate between players".  Argonath Vision

If I was a new player, I would not want to be limited due to the fact that I do not have a passport. I would think that the server sucks and eventually leave.

[Batta]

Hi,

I don't want to play the annoying guy part but this completely goes against the Argonath Vision and the principles the community is based on.

Furthermore this was previously deeply discussed and rejected for the same reason.

Batta

[Mihail Junkovich]

Is that interfering with Argonath Vision? 

No any objections on your facts guys.. I did stated the same thing above as I am aware that any kind of limitations around that is probably.. interfering with Argonath Vision.

But I still can't stop to wonder.. if that kind of limitation affects the Argonath Vision that much. I mean that you can not /su but you can still be a cop?
Isn't that "kinda" the same as the fact that i.e. LCPD Officers can do the /cs and freecops can't?

[Talya_taya]

I really wonder how people say something like this is against argo vision but when its about buying property and cars, it requires passport and license, can someone explain me this to me?

[BojanS]

I really wonder how people say something like this is against argo vision but when its about buying property and cars, it requires passport and license, can someone explain me this to me?

Good thinking Talya.

[Batta]

I really wonder how people say something like this is against argo vision but when its about buying property and cars, it requires passport and license, can someone explain me this to me?

It's simple. Those you want to limitate are essential commands. Buying a car/house isn't essential and it requires experience.

[Talya_taya]

It's simple. Those you want to limitate are essential commands. Buying a car/house isn't essential and it requires experience.

Can you tell me why freecops dont get essential commands like /cs /uc then also? [Counting /uc as a command for rp ofc, its limiting cops...]

[Batta]

Can you tell me why freecops dont get essential commands like /cs /uc then also? [Counting /uc as a command for rp ofc, its limiting cops...]

Because they are not essential / would be object of abuse.

[Talya_taya]

Because they are not essential / would be object of abuse.

Its just too senseless that u dont cathegorize /su and /uc together...

Oh so /su is not an object of abuse, okay.  Im not expecting a full day fbi to understand me anyway.