Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Brandon.]

This server started going down hill ever since the regular player base was catered for less and less at around early 2010. Role-play - I mean actual role-play, not implied through a script role-play, became an afterthought and it was all about how many scripts could be made to please server aesthetics and trigger happy bunny hoppers, you know, the random SA:MP server scrolling kiddies.

The glory days were back when admins catered to role-play events and the ARPD had role-players in command, as soon as the focus turned to chasing orange dots for that cash pay-out, a community similar to that which is seen in Call of Duty was created; it was all about that kill and getting the high score, be it as a family or as a cop. I will refer to these as trigger-kids during this.

So slowly the dedicated regular role-players were churned and forced out of their positions by the trigger-kids, hostage situations were impossible to negotiate, the role-play was slowly watered down until it became all about "give me your money or i'll kill you", but I'm not even talking about a role-played mugging for cash, I'm talking about people getting so wrapped up in it that actual anger and actual intensity behind the attacks fueled the motives.

The ARPD similarly had people looking for the best way to kill suspects coming in and as a result? The SWAT I had founded was molested in to some sort of Nazi-regime kill squad, for those of you who know him Ben Samiir is prime suspect for being the leading trigger-kid in that turn of police generation, similarly this was seen in a lot of the new ARPD commanders and before long I had just lost respect for so many people, especially those that were allowing it to happen, for a time me and a few others tried very hard to fight it but the new admin trigger-kids (even Ben was made an admin can you believe?) were whispering sweet nothings that ensured their security.

We were told "you're old news, old SWAT and old ARPD isn't needed any more, you're out-dated". Can you believe the most organized thing the ARPD does now is drive a column of squad cars around? Lol, in comparison to what they used to be? Man there was some impressive stuff. The role-play was so well catered for that entire riots could be role-played out and the police wouldn't steam in and fire in M4s and uzis getting their $$$ in, it'd be riot formations and tactics, arrests and so on;


Batons at the ready.

SWAT team deployed to a truck that couldn't stop due to a bomb that would of set off on it if it did, SWAT deployed an operative ON TO the truck and successfully defused it;


A typical hostage scene, not like your rammed-out blockades and gun shots everywhere of today;


The team was a legend, the Mafia families created such incredible role-play, even the standard cop force was top notch; 80%+ used Teamspeak, spread out over radio channels to properly communicate the situations and people LOVED it. Though that was all dropped with new scripts and new ideas, the server leaders wanted everything to be open to everybody with-out any effort.

Before long it became TDM. Every time I logged on to the server, every couple of months or so I'd see it getting worse and worse; admins where on their knees to please new players and Gandalf and Aragorn were lapping up the player count so busily that they couldn't of been caring any less as to the effect it was having on the regular founding community.

So it continued, and continued and continues - building more and more scripts, quickly, hurriedly to please the new community monsters you created, until finally it caught up and bit you in the ass. I could of said "I told you so" but some how it doesn't seem like it would cut it.

I'm just glad for the awesome memories I have from the time when it was about role-play and not about the cash trigger-kiddies script and community that's circling around now-a-days. Does it leave me bitter? Yeah it does, it wasn't nice watching the server I loved turned in to an abomination of what it once was.

Maybe this will be a wake up call to the server owners or maybe this will be its death. Either way? Was bound to happen some day.

Very well said It is sad the most i ever enjoyed Argonath was 2009-2011 after that I quit. hope they read this because everything you said is correct.

[beLTa]

Very well said It is sad the most i ever enjoyed Argonath was 2009-2011 after that I quit. hope they read this because everything you said is correct.

Agreed with you, Argonath is getting boring from now on (after releasing of RS5). I registered in 2013 and when i did, i really enjoyed it alot and love to play ArgonathRPG, The best server ever. RS4 had 100 of players every day but in RS5, Only 25 players? Why? in my openion, We have to move RS4 back in game. 
Don't mind huh!!

[Brandon.]

Agreed with you, Argonath is getting boring from now on (after releasing of RS5). I registered in 2013 and when i did, i really enjoyed it alot and love to play ArgonathRPG, The best server ever. RS4 had 100 of players every day but in RS5, Only 25 players? Why? in my openion, We have to move RS4 back in game. 
Don't mind huh!!

I prefer rs2

[Whiteman]

This server started going down hill ever since the regular player base was catered for less and less at around early 2010. Role-play - I mean actual role-play, not implied through a script role-play, became an afterthought and it was all about how many scripts could be made to please server aesthetics and trigger happy bunny hoppers, you know, the random SA:MP server scrolling kiddies.

The glory days were back when admins catered to role-play events and the ARPD had role-players in command, as soon as the focus turned to chasing orange dots for that cash pay-out, a community similar to that which is seen in Call of Duty was created; it was all about that kill and getting the high score, be it as a family or as a cop. I will refer to these as trigger-kids during this.

So slowly the dedicated regular role-players were churned and forced out of their positions by the trigger-kids, hostage situations were impossible to negotiate, the role-play was slowly watered down until it became all about "give me your money or i'll kill you", but I'm not even talking about a role-played mugging for cash, I'm talking about people getting so wrapped up in it that actual anger and actual intensity behind the attacks fueled the motives.

The ARPD similarly had people looking for the best way to kill suspects coming in and as a result? The SWAT I had founded was molested in to some sort of Nazi-regime kill squad, for those of you who know him Ben Samiir is prime suspect for being the leading trigger-kid in that turn of police generation, similarly this was seen in a lot of the new ARPD commanders and before long I had just lost respect for so many people, especially those that were allowing it to happen, for a time me and a few others tried very hard to fight it but the new admin trigger-kids (even Ben was made an admin can you believe?) were whispering sweet nothings that ensured their security.

We were told "you're old news, old SWAT and old ARPD isn't needed any more, you're out-dated". Can you believe the most organized thing the ARPD does now is drive a column of squad cars around? Lol, in comparison to what they used to be? Man there was some impressive stuff. The role-play was so well catered for that entire riots could be role-played out and the police wouldn't steam in and fire in M4s and uzis getting their $$$ in, it'd be riot formations and tactics, arrests and so on;


Batons at the ready.

SWAT team deployed to a truck that couldn't stop due to a bomb that would of set off on it if it did, SWAT deployed an operative ON TO the truck and successfully defused it;


A typical hostage scene, not like your rammed-out blockades and gun shots everywhere of today;


The team was a legend, the Mafia families created such incredible role-play, even the standard cop force was top notch; 80%+ used Teamspeak, spread out over radio channels to properly communicate the situations and people LOVED it. Though that was all dropped with new scripts and new ideas, the server leaders wanted everything to be open to everybody with-out any effort.

Before long it became TDM. Every time I logged on to the server, every couple of months or so I'd see it getting worse and worse; admins where on their knees to please new players and Gandalf and Aragorn were lapping up the player count so busily that they couldn't of been caring any less as to the effect it was having on the regular founding community.

So it continued, and continued and continues - building more and more scripts, quickly, hurriedly to please the new community monsters you created, until finally it caught up and bit you in the ass. I could of said "I told you so" but some how it doesn't seem like it would cut it.

I'm just glad for the awesome memories I have from the time when it was about role-play and not about the cash trigger-kiddies script and community that's circling around now-a-days. Does it leave me bitter? Yeah it does, it wasn't nice watching the server I loved turned in to an abomination of what it once was.

Maybe this will be a wake up call to the server owners or maybe this will be its death. Either way? Was bound to happen some day.

Respect for this man right here, he has been a rolemodel throughout Argonath and knows what he's talking about.

[Kaze]

As I have been distancing myself from this community due to this, I am still in shock with the fact that this topic is still ongoing.

Although the statistics are right in front of them, the 'heirachy' are just too arrogant. As much as we want RS4 back, it will not happen.

Oh how much I miss Argonath back in 2009..

Requesting this topic to be locked.

[beLTa]

I prefer rs2

Now, i have to laugh? do i?

[Petarda]

Now, i have to laugh? do i?

miracle, belta didn't agree

[beLTa]

miracle, belta didn't agree

Ofcrce i'm not. Look, He said that he prefer RS2, right?

I prefer rs2

So if you agree with him simply means that you also love to play the oldestserver, RS2. You missed RS3, RS4? Why RS2. I meant that RS4 is better than RS5 and now the topic has been moved to RS2 - RS5.  Didn't it is? By the way, Enjoy your RS2.

[AK47]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Petarda]

So if you agree with him simply means that you also love to play the oldestserver, RS2. You missed RS3, RS4? Why RS2. I meant that RS4 is better than RS5 and now the topic has been moved to RS2 - RS5.  Didn't it is? By the way, Enjoy your RS2.

[ssaammee]

Ofcrce i'm not. Look, He said that he prefer RS2, right?So if you agree with him simply means that you also love to play the oldestserver, RS2. You missed RS3, RS4? Why RS2. I meant that RS4 is better than RS5 and now the topic has been moved to RS2 - RS5.  Didn't it is? By the way, Enjoy your RS2.

You should get some sleep, your point isn't very sharp.

[AK47]

Copy RS4 - implent in RS5

[Declan]

Let's get fake nao. :3

[Mopreme]

Requesting this topic to be locked.

Hold on now. At any time now, someone might walk by with a pocket full of money to bring back RS4

Let's get real? At the end of the day, we all know RS5 is staying which makes any RS4 VS. RS5 topics nothing but pointless. Have fun discussing, though

[Lustigkurre]

Any developer who can tell what the plans are? If you have any. Or if you gonna leave this sunken ship as it is, let me know it so I can leave right away.