Thoughts & Suggestions

[TiMoN]

I've asked Zaila about this and he says it's not in the plans ?

It did exist in the beta, if you wrote /growweed it would say; "You are not at a weed spot or on your house's doorstep."

[Stivi]

It did exist in the beta, if you wrote /growweed it would say; "You are not at a weed spot or on your house's doorstep."

Did mention that as well.

[Pablo Escobar]

Problem:
 Free cop duty and abusing players game and forcing their Roleplays;

getting free cash for suspecting players and players cannot resist due of losing cash and weapons,they make a /gu to not to lose weapons or anything.

For more info take a look the spoiler.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Solution/Idea:

Removing free cop duty and only allow people with applications ( on forums) with proper way to removing random cops abusing people around and that'll helpfull for bringing a lot of roleplays case as a cop duty and playing with knowledge as a cop.

[Spike.]

Problem:
 Free cop duty and abusing players game and forcing their Roleplays;

getting free cash for suspecting players and players cannot resist due of losing cash and weapons,they make a /gu to not to lose weapons or anything.

For more info take a look the spoiler.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Solution/Idea:

Removing free cop duty and only allow people with applications ( on forums) with proper way to removing random cops abusing people around and that'll helpfull for bringing a lot of roleplays case as a cop duty and playing with knowledge as a cop.

Will never happen a solution would be that people which are in criminal groups would not be allowed to go on duty, awaiting response from HQ.

[Manoni]

Will never happen a solution would be that people which are in criminal groups would not be allowed to go on duty, awaiting response from HQ.

Not only those that are part of criminal groups abuse their duty rights, anyone can do this and in fact, I've seen mobsters on duty and performing them properly, your "solution" does not makes any sense.

[Patton]

only allow people with applications ( on forums)

Too much paperwork via too many people interested in the job for the exact same reasons you're making this proposal.


Edit:

(MTA:SA) SFFD Fire fighter

[Spike.]

Not only those that are part of criminal groups abuse their duty rights, anyone can do this and in fact, I've seen mobsters on duty and performing them properly, your "solution" does not makes any sense.

Well, but it does not make sense a person which is in a criminal group be a SAPD Officer. And I only know about 1 or 2 criminals which perform SAP Duties really good.

[Spike.]

Edit:

Not really the best place... (I wrote as a free one)

[Pablo Escobar]

Too much paperwork via too many people interested in the job for the exact same reasons you're making this proposal.


Edit:

Too much paper work for most abused job in argonath community ? Even the worst family accepts their members with applications,We should make an something better than this

-Cops can be able to force RP easly
-Cops can be able to kill someone w/o getting suspects
-Cops can be able to get free weps to pew pew around
-Cops can be able to suspect people w/o reasons ( specially night times.)
-Cops can be able to kill civillians w/o getting any punishment ( losing their cash $500 which is really doesnt make any sense)
-Civillians can't afford to get killed any lose everything. ( Thats because they obey the cops even if they corrupt or whatever.)

[Spike.]

Too much paper work for most abused job in argonath community ? Even the worst family accepts their members with applications,We should make an something better than this

-Cops can be able to force RP easly
-Cops can be able to kill someone w/o getting suspects
-Cops can be able to get free weps to pew pew around
-Cops can be able to suspect people w/o reasons ( specially night times.)
-Cops can be able to kill civillians w/o getting any punishment ( losing their cash $500 which is really doesnt make any sense)
-Civillians can't afford to get killed any lose everything. ( Thats because they obey the cops even if they corrupt or whatever.)

You have good points but I don't think the HQ will move it on, but any ways let's wait for a response

[Rusty]

Problem:
 Free cop duty and abusing players game and forcing their Roleplays;

getting free cash for suspecting players and players cannot resist due of losing cash and weapons,they make a /gu to not to lose weapons or anything.

For more info take a look the spoiler.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Solution/Idea:

Removing free cop duty and only allow people with applications ( on forums) with proper way to removing random cops abusing people around and that'll helpfull for bringing a lot of roleplays case as a cop duty and playing with knowledge as a cop.

As much as I'd like cop duty to be this way, it just won't happen here.  If players are abusing cop duty by mis-using the /suspect command (giving bullshit reasons/randomly driving past people and suspecting etc etc) it CAN lead to server punishment in form of a ban. 

It is the job that most problems occur from, that is why we have server staff on hand to tackle it and SAPD command staff to deal with them aswell.  There isn't freecops anymore, everyone on police duty falls under SAPD.  If you want to report a cop do so via the ARPD forum, all reports must come with evidence that was obtained by roleplay means.

[Patton]

Too much paper work for most abused job in argonath community ?

Yes, too much paperwork. A group like the PD would grow very large in a very short time period: as an example, SFPD on MTA:SA grew to about 50 members in just two months, and SA-MP one would grow big even faster due to the larger player base. Managing such amount of people is that much harder since that this is a game.

Even the worst family accepts their members with applications

Being able to post an application is not a guarantee that the job won't be abused. There exist countless examples where people were just playing nice until their application got accepted, and this is even outside PD.

Removing and sanctioning stuff is one way to do it, but it is hardly the best one. Instead, there should be incentives for good behavior (like weekly bonuses) and bigger penalties for bad conduct (longer copbans). If you really wanted, you could turn it into a roleplay situation: the cop(s) would be taken to the court, but then you'd have two problems instead of one.

[Spike.]

Yes, too much paperwork. A group like the PD would grow very large in a very short time period: as an example, SFPD on MTA:SA grew to about 50 members in just two months, and SA-MP one would grow big even faster due to the larger player base. Managing such amount of people is that much harder since that this is a game.
Being able to post an application is not a guarantee that the job won't be abused. There exist countless examples where people were just playing nice until their application got accepted, and this is even outside PD.

Removing and sanctioning stuff is one way to do it, but it is hardly the best one. Instead, there should be incentives for good behavior (like weekly bonuses) and bigger penalties for bad conduct (longer copbans). If you really wanted, you could turn it into a roleplay situation: the cop(s) would be taken to the court, but then you'd have two problems instead of one.

Well, if there are more members this means there will be more command staff doesn't it ?

[Pandalink]

Will never happen a solution would be that people which are in criminal groups would not be allowed to go on duty, awaiting response from HQ.

This nearly killed the SAPD in RS3, just so you know.

[TiMoN]

Want a way to deal with abusive and corrupt cops?
Here's the solution.

Here's what happened to someone who smoked weed in my car and charged me for it. http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=92100.msg1481530#msg1481530