Sorry can't get addicted to Argonath RPG

[Mr. Goobii]

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Yesterday SAPD senior officer raged because of SAPD officer making an organized patrol.

The problem is in the veterans, the SAPD Senior keep "raging" on new player when the SAPD officer trying to create some roleplay...

[Pablo Escobar]

Last thing about roleplaying: I to be honest never seen a cop roleplaying properly

Thats what i was looking for ,thanks.

[Huntsman]

Agreed, but..

Never, ever spread words saying that RON & Ronnel has abandoned us. If that was the case, Argonath RPG as a whole would cease to exist, but didn't. Everybody here seems to forget that there's the real world we have to deal with, not just Argonath. I honestly don't want players new and old to start bashing on them for not being around, it's rude and disgusting.

I'm not saying they abandoned us, but it certainly feels kinda empty and chaotic without them. Real life or not, they still could hop in once in a while and tell us what's up. The matter of the fact was that Gandalf and Aragorn, especially Gandalf, somehow managed to get players motivated and kick the asses of those who would spread anti-RS5 bullshit we see now, but now when they're absent, these people feel free to shit on RS5 as much as they like.

[Devin]

these people feel free to shit on RS5 as much as they like.

And "these people" will meet a wall if an HQ member or myself happen to see them. If someone wants to complain, then why are they still here?

[Sawyer]

Correct, people don't care for roleplay as much, and it's not up to scripters to fix that.
It's the people, 21th century and the evilness.
When in vehicle, there is that specific group of people who purposely go as near to you as possible just to attempt lag ram, and they just move away like nothing happened, if rammed or not.
That's so freaking annoying, ignorant and stubborn.

Then there are firemen, mostly people who are in mafias (I won't name) who respond to fire scene with personal vehicles, shamals, dodos and whatnot, ramming everyone and everything on their way, like, who cares about sirens, roleplay and that, it's free money!

Then there are mechanics, ramming people purposely to make someone /acceptrepair, racing you just to do /S REPAIR!?!? and blocking roads generally just to ask question like "REPAIR?!"

Then medics, oh wait, no, nobody is on medic duty because it doesn't give free money.

People generally refuse to roleplay properly, everything is about money and money only. Specially the ones that play RS5 just to troll and act like 5year old, just killing for no reason, provoking and complaining.
There are no more than bunch of players who will actually roleplay properly and seriously.
When I try to roleplay, people either drive away just to get suspected (as I'm on police duty 24/7) or just start insulting and provoking for no reason "FUCK U ABUSER *drives away*", specially the ones as soon as you drive to them in blue name and they're lie "WHUT DID I DO!?" and I didn't even say a word.

Simply, it's the people to blame, not the scripters.

Oh boy you have my total respect. 

[Str8Shoot3r]

Bullshit. You have not seen what new players do each day, when veterans disrespect them and count them as something "less worthy"

Or constantly get picked on and suspected/kidnapped for profit.

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Yesterday SAPD senior officer raged because of SAPD officer making an organized patrol.

What gives the other officers less of a right for making patrols? There's a chain of command then there's totalitarian organizations. This is why I liked the division of freecops and then SAPD. SAPD was a lot more strict but it wasn't required to be a police.

What habits did ARPD, aspiring to be SAPD, pick up? Ten codes, how to drive by, PIT and how to shoot to name a few. How does that help roleplay? I had better roleplays with new players. Why? They're not copying the same template over and over. A criminal or officer shouldn't just be another criminal or police. Every player should be unique and craft their own story.

I'm not saying they abandoned us, but it certainly feels kinda empty and chaotic without them.

They were there before, yes, but you didn't see them on every day. When one of them logged on, it was a celebration of sorts.

now when they're absent, these people feel free to shit on RS5 as much as they like.

They're community leaders. They're not babysitters. The forums have other moderators that could do the same thing. Sort of like:

And "these people" will meet a wall if an HQ member or myself happen to see them. If someone wants to complain, then why are they still here?

See? However, if they don't know about it then they won't take action. Reporting is there for a reason.

[Huntsman]

And "these people" will meet a wall if an HQ member or myself happen to see them. If someone wants to complain, then why are they still here?

Because they want to see SA:MP get fixed as much as we do, but some people just can't help but moan :S

[Apollo]

And "these people" will meet a wall if an HQ member or myself happen to see them. If someone wants to complain, then why are they still here?

That kind of mentality is the reason why people simply don't want to play anymore.

[Teddy]

That kind of mentality is the reason why people simply don't want to play anymore.

You think its fine to just straight out shit on something; without giving any sort of ideas, suggestions, or otherwise positive discussion? And we're the assholes for just ignoring the stuff that accomplish nothing? I don't think you understand the point he was making.

[Apollo]

You think its fine to just straight out shit on something; without giving any sort of ideas, suggestions, or otherwise positive discussion? And we're the assholes for just ignoring the stuff that accomplish nothing? I don't think you understand the point he was making.

The point is, if you have an alternative opinion (whether it be positive or negative) to something, you are hushed and told to not express it. Recently (within the last year), the mentality switched from being a community (a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals) to a place of "It's our way or the highway". That doesn't seem very welcoming at all. But hey, that's none of my business.

[CharlieKasper]

The point is, if you have an alternative opinion (whether it be positive or negative) to something, you are hushed and told to not express it. Recently (within the last year), the mentality switched from being a community (a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals) to a place of "It's our way or the highway". That doesn't seem very welcoming at all. But hey, that's none of my business.

The developers have said several times that they are open to ideas that will benefit both mindsets (who like the way RS5 works and those who don't).

People have been suggesting ideas like returning to RS4 - that's impossible, 1. because hard work by the development team will be wasted, 2. because going back to RS4 would be a downgrade since RS5 uses new methods that will keep up with the new demands as well as be faster than RS4 (quoting Teddy)...

What exactly are you talking about? RS5 has changed a lot since it was first made public. People requested confusing stuff to be removed and guess what? Wallets, cards, pickpocket have been removed. As you can see changes such as jurisdiction and PnS are being heavily discussed in the SA:MP ideas section. Even a part of the staff members want some stuff to be changed.

Devin started giving groups a reason (for those who didn't want to cause of losing their HQ and vehicles) to play by providing them with resources (HQ, vehicles).

Had it not been for the positive feedback by the players who gave positive feedback (and not just complain that RS5 is bad RS4 is better without providing proper reason and alternatives), RS5 would still have been hated as much as it did in early stages.

[Teddy]

The point is, if you have an alternative opinion (whether it be positive or negative) to something, you are hushed and told to not express it. Recently (within the last year), the mentality switched from being a community (a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals) to a place of "It's our way or the highway". That doesn't seem very welcoming at all. But hey, that's none of my business.

Can you not read or have you selected not to read? You're spurting out wrong facts. Since day 0 of Argonath developers have asked for input on everything. SA:MP Ideas board is a thing... when we released RS5 multiple topics were officially created asking for feedback, suggestions, what you like, didn't like, etc. etc. To this day, yes, today, I posted saying your feedback is what is gonna keep us going. Yet we're hushing you?

[.Matthew.]

These are evidence about my post regarding SAFD and personal vehicles:

[Str8Shoot3r]

These are evidence about my post regarding SAFD and personal vehicles:
[picture set]

I don't get what's the big deal here. How is it affecting you? Was there even a fire mission to begin with?

[Zaila]

The point is, if you have an alternative opinion (whether it be positive or negative) to something, you are hushed and told to not express it. Recently (within the last year), the mentality switched from being a community (a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals) to a place of "It's our way or the highway". That doesn't seem very welcoming at all. But hey, that's none of my business.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=103344.0

Your argument is invalid.

I'm not able to take you seriously considering you are saying that you've been here for atleast a year, yet you are using a forum account that is registered 12 days ago, which means you got something to hide and dont want people to find out who you are. Also, as long as any kind of criticism is constructive, and contains ideas on how to improve whatever the criticism is about, then i'm all ear to hear it as i value that. However, saying shit like "this feature sucks, delete it" or something similar will just make me ignore you as it's just a waste of time trying to talk with people that can't even forumlate properly why they think something is bad.