Sorry can't get addicted to Argonath RPG

[AK47]

Indeed, I did not see it and since he apologized and started roleplaying I choosed to not take any action against him.

Admin however "didn't see anything" even though there was another person next to us which was reported for returning after death, so I didn't really get if the screen was frozen or what.

How do you know I didn't send a PM to the guy telling him to not try to be a part of your roleplay since he died? Oh yeah, you don't. And for the record, instead of ragequitting you would have seen that he left the scene.

[Slavik]

I reported 1 person nearby first, then the second one came minutes later to the same spot and I reported the second person.

Just because you dont see the warn doesn't mean we dont deal with the reports

[Teddy]

Just because you dont see the warn doesn't mean we dont deal with the reports

A concept so many people fail to grasp. It's disappointing really. It's like the team isn't doing anything unless we, immediately, without time to investigate or anything issue something that provisions pretty red text on the screen. However this is hardly the case; we have this special command you might have heard, called /pm, works quite well.

[.Matthew.]

A concept so many people fail to grasp. It's disappointing really. It's like the team isn't doing anything unless we, immediately, without time to investigate or anything issue something that provisions pretty red text on the screen. However this is hardly the case; we have this special command you might have heard, called /pm, works quite well.

I know he was checking the report, but the thing is that people who try to ruin rare roleplay scenes which occur in argonath are not adequately punished.
And in my situation, you couldn't ignore them since they killed you and you spawned in middle of LV.

[Teddy]

in argonath are not adequately punished.

What would you consider adequate punishment?

[Polar]

you couldn't ignore them since they killed you and you spawned in middle of LV.

In this case, I suggest just letting it happen. Showing no RP with these types, then if they do kill you, report them. (or if you already did, just PM the admin that took the report to see if he saw it or something.) The admins do look into things. I just feel different admins are heavier with punishment and many are light.

[Huntsman]

What would you consider adequate punishment?

What he means, I think, is that people are not punished equally. The last time I checked, leaving topics are not allowed and forbidden by Gandalf, however, I've seen some players who are more known in the community make such topics and nobody does anything to them, while a less known player posts one and the topic gets locked. Very good example is this topic too, since it's pretty much a leaving topic which also contains some typical moaning about RS5 without willing to contribute to its progress.

[Teddy]

leaving topics are not allowed and forbidden by Gandalf, however, I've seen some players who are more known in the community make such topics and nobody does anything to them, while a less known player posts one and the topic gets locked.

The reasoning behind this is there was a period in time where people would make leaving topics, shit on the community in these topics, take a few days, or few weeks, and then return and act like nothing happened. However, there are some instances where this is let to slide for a period for members who have made significant contributions to the community and are just saying their goodbyes out of respect. While I may disagree with the stance, there is logical reasoning behind it.

As for the rest; I'm not asking in particular I'm pointing to the fact most people see a punishment is always in need for every report. This idea is a false and largely demanded.

[.Matthew.]

Like Rytuklis said, it seems like older players get weaker punishments than newer players.
Some old players just wait for situation to happen, then they out of nowhere do something, for example if it's a traffic accident, they'll go on medic duty and ram all the cars and act like superman paramedic, while some of the cars could've be rammed on nearby player (like it happened to me) and kill, while the admin was dealing with another situation and didn't see it happen.
It just makes you frustrated that old players, those who should represent argonath do such things purposely for own entertainment instead of entertainment for everyone in the scene.
And in such situation, the best admin can do is /pm them to stop, and they'll just move out and repeat the same as soon as new situation appears.
+ In most situation, admins would think that old players wouldn't do such things, because they're "old players" and "loyal".

[Archie]

Erm... I think you should be more patient against to new players. Anyhow, they're learning the rules. You know that car killing is rulebreak but perhaps most of new players don't know even what is car killing (like me, when I log in a server first time). So, why don't you go and say that "car killing is a rulebreak so please do not do it again" to this rulebreaker instead of complaining a situation like that. And I believe this will get more happier both side, new players and regulars.

[.Matthew.]

Erm... I think you should be more patient against to new players. Anyhow, they're learning the rules. You know that car killing is rulebreak but perhaps most of new players don't know even what is car killing (like me, when I log in a server first time). So, why don't you go and say that "car killing is a rulebreak so please do not do it again" to this rulebreaker instead of complaining a situation like that. And I believe this will get more happier both side, new players and regulars.

I'm talking about old players, not new players.
New players are new, they need to learn and get used to the environment, while the old ones were in it for longer time.

[AK47]

admins would think that old players wouldn't do such things, because they're "old players" and "loyal".

The largest ammount of rulebreakers are old players.

[RizzE.]

I'm talking about old players, not new players.
New players are new, they need to learn and get used to the environment, while the old ones were in it for longer time.

Yes, the older players might get bored and they decide to hack or just fuck around because they don't give a shit.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 Bullshitting on old players...Nothing new under the sun. Christ, I swear if I say the same thing you said but replace "old players" with "new players", I'd get banned. I can't believe how ungrateful the community is to veterans nowadays...From admins punishing old players because they fought back against a DMing New Player to newbies ban evading, hacking, DDoSing the server after which they're welcomed back to the community with open arms...Veteran decides to fuck around? Banned. No second chances.
 People making groups full of rulebreakers...They get banned, month later I log in, guess who's back online? Oh yeah! /that/ guy!
 Argonath's vision is aimed toward new players, and that has always sickened me. Don't take me wrong, there is a lot of potential in the new people who join...But people who dedicate years of their life to Argonath don't get anything. People who donate to the server? Nah, who cares. Simple "thank you" is enough...I'm not gonna moan, I gave up on my part of the community long ago. People just don't respect anyone nowadays...Just sharing my opinion on things. 

[Tiny]

Bullshitting on old players...Nothing new under the sun. Christ, I swear if I say the same thing you said but replace "old players" with "new players", I'd get banned. I can't believe how ungrateful the community is to veterans nowadays...From admins punishing old players because they fought back against a DMing New Player to newbies ban evading, hacking, DDoSing the server after which they're welcomed back to the community with open arms...Veteran decides to f**k around? Banned. No second chances.
 People making groups full of rulebreakers...They get banned, month later I log in, guess who's back online? Oh yeah! /that/ guy!
 Argonath's vision is aimed toward new players, and that has always sickened me. Don't take me wrong, there is a lot of potential in the new people who join...But people who dedicate years of their life to Argonath don't get anything. People who donate to the server? Nah, who cares. Simple "thank you" is enough...I'm not gonna moan, I gave up on my part of the community long ago. People just don't respect anyone nowadays...Just sharing my opinion on things. 

Not everyone is the same, so don't talk about "Argonath" in general. The lack of respect exists even in real life, what do you expect from a game?

Also, about the Veterans and newbies thing;
Newbies are newbies, who have lack of knowledge of the rules and the community's tradition in general, what would happen if they were treated equally with the knowledged Veterans? A "Veteran" has been here for years, it's time for him to learn the rules and follow them. Most of old players are now trolling around, shitting on the community because "things are not like they were some years ago". Yeah, i'm here for 2 years and things have already changed a lot since my first months.. but that's it, if Veterans can't follow the rules, no newbie will do it.

And for the donations, there's nothing more they can do than thank him; However nobody ever forced players to donate. You really shouldn't complain about that..