An end to constant use of military jets and helicopters

[CBFasi]

Apparently Hunters and Hydras are allowed to attack civilians for a new reason called "commissioner's orders".

I know that is not correct, report via pm the persons stating that and I will deal with them, you will need to provide evidence as at this state I do not believe you...

[[NP]Monte Montague]

All I hate about it is the skys are constantly full of these hydras and hunters who fly dangerously and really low, law enforcement should be encouraging good flying. They also seem to be going towards chasing people on the streets too much and this is not good.
they shouldn't use a hydra or a hunter for observations, use a police heli like most police forces would do.

[JackWhite]

It should be avoided, but we've already explained what happens when one decides to drive-by the hunter/hydra, this happened quite a few times.

Of course, but what is a hydra/hunter doing close to the ground where people/cars etc is located? At this situation criminals in a car, military aircraft has nothing with it to do.

[Lustigkurre]

All I hate about it is the skys are constantly full of these hydras and hunters

Constantly full och hydras and hunters? Trust me im in the air 90 percent of my time ingame and it's not often that I see them.

[eymas]

they shouldn't use a hydra or a hunter for observations, use a police heli like most police forces would do.

There's quite a difference when the suspect has switched from an aircraft to a car, and you're already right above him. It would be a waste to get a normal helicopter, no?

[JackWhite]

There's quite a difference when the suspect has switched from an aircraft to a car, and you're already right above him. It would be a waste to get a normal helicopter, no?

You have a radio/teamspeak for a reason. Call a normal helicopter/unit on ground. At once they are close, leave and get a helicopter.

[Kostas]

Only read till the end of page two... but let me bring up something...
Some time ago there was brought up to /p a moan about a land vehicle that was taken out by a hydra/hunter(don't remember and it is not important) ... As I usually tend to do that, I immediatelly asked if they are allowed to and I was told of the full situation and I was also told why they were allowed to do so (note that I don't recall those suspects being airborn beforehand).
So the story ... the suspects were evading in a land vehicle, and heavy airforce vehicle was stalking them(should be a hunter actually... but again I don't remembet)... As their rhl wasn't going down due to the officer driving the hunter(let's name it like that for an examble) being close to them, they decided to obviously open fire to it, just like they would do to any other police vehicle that was chasing them... And because of that people said on /p that the Hunter Pilot got the permition to open fire on their vehicle and take them out... Now how do you explain this??????????????????????

[Kostas]

Firing on people on the ground however depends on the situation; if one shoots the hunter/hydra, then we are allowed to retaliate. However, we cannot use it on a group of suspects unless it's a last resort measure, which is VERY rare.

And here it goes... now explain my why this is right... You do not allow them to escape, you are airborn = abled to easily keep up with them, so you leave them no other chance than shooting at you, and because of that you get the right to take them down with your overpowered weaponry?
Once again, why is that right???

By Fernando
I said if they shoot escape, emagine you are in a hunter/hydra and there are suspect shooting at you hunter/hydra and it is with low HP, will you stay there until you die and let the plane fall and explode.

Well did you expect them to stand and watch you stalk them/disallowing them from escaping? Explain to me how this is not against the server rules? As you are practicly forcing him to RP , to chose to either shoot you and get shot at or remain a suspect till he/they get caught.

[Petarda]

Now how do you explain this??????????????????????

With a topic lock or forum warn.

[Kostas]

With a topic lock or forum warn.

Okay how the f@@@ is that related to what I said? Thank you for going completly off-topic...

[Brian]

When I was still in the criminal business in RS4, I had no issues with escaping from heavy air without opening fire at them, you should use your brain and not your guns.

[Kostas]

When I was still in the criminal business in RS4, I had no issues with escaping from heavy air without opening fire at them, you should use your brain and not your guns.

First of all I don't recall hydras and hunters going after land vehicles in rs4 ... they were even extremelly rare to be found going after airborn suspects ... I recall having to go on a Dodo DB plan to stop airborn suspects when I was in the police side...

Secondly this has practicly nothing to do with the fact taht they are forcing roleplay...

[Cofiliano]

Guidelines that cover: When to use, when to fire, when not to fire. 
Don't say it isn't regulated as that's just being a hypocrite, they are regulated by the guidelines set forth.  You say people randomly fly them around, then report to division leader or anyone that retains the rank of Captain and above.  But wait you don't want to report ...

We add the Rustler in place of the Hydra same shit is going to happen, players coming to the forum to have a bubble about it.

It isnt regulated the way it should be regulated, by rules. Guidelines simply isn't enough. In example I cant report a guy in game for misusage of it so admins can check, cause its not a rule yet guidelines. And we're talking about most dangerous weapon that exist on the server.

[Devin]

Another item being complained about?
If people with access to the hunter/hydra abuse it, their access will be revoked if reported. I don't see what else is needed.

[Morais]

Shoot at a police car, expect to be shot back. Shoot an helicopter loaded with miniguns and rockets... you're just dumb. If the regulations come to public be smart and use them against us cops. Duhh.

As for the 1st post, complete nonsense. I do understand the need of multiple topics so people get that you're back. WB anyways.