Cop VS Criminal

[Pablo Escobar]

I'd like to introduce some benefits between cops vs criminals

at this topic ,i compared Criminals against Cops.


Cop with benefits :

+ You can return after death whenever you wanted to return back.
+ You can gear all free pepper spray and deagle ( which is deadly weapon as a player )
+ You have all free cars/moto-bikes and helicopters around you.
+ You can simply /su player and kill him like hunting animals.
+ You can ramm someone criminal to spot him its not an abuse at all
+ You can report someone in front of you with /report ,if he's doing something wrong.
+ You can go on duty in 5 minutes with all conditions.
+ You can force RP's as a bad cop or dity cop.
+ You can use Hydra/Hunter if you have enough rank to use them.
+ You can suspect someone while they're dealing drugs.
+ You can kill someone mistaken you wont get suspected ( You'll fined with $500 )
+ You'll not going to lose anything when you get killed ( You'll have a chance to return back also )
+ You dont need to work for something else car or anything since government will give you all for free.
+ You can hunt any criminal IG w/o organized RP just notice orange dot in game and storm in

Criminals with benefits:

+ You cannot return after death
+ You have to work harder to get some deagly weapon which costs really high $ with current system
+ You dont have any cars,bike,helicopter unless you work for them
+ You cannot kill someone w/o RP
+ You can ramm people , but its a rule break.
+ You cannot report cop IG , you have to find out evidences to report him and making this report you have to be fit in RP to obtaining stuff.
+ You just cannot RP as a criminal if you dont have anything on your hand. People wont fear your fists.
+ You cannot force someone IG like RPly or not you just can't force someone
+ You cannot use any government vehicle like cop cruiser even if you kill cop you cannot steal the car.
+ You dont have permission to use Hydra/Hunter you cannot steal them.
+ You'll lose your cash when you get killed as a criminal
+ You'll lose your weapons and armour everything on you even the drugs if you forgot the put them to containers.
+ You have to travel around SA all day long for drug spots and find out empty spot and grow it with risk people still may steal it. Even If you done with drugs you have to sell them and you may get scammed its a risk too.
+ You cannot kill cops while you helping your friend to evade since you suppose play as a team,Unless get suspected you'll have a chance to help someone.


PS: Its not about complaining against criminal side or cop side , i just wanted to share the things i see in argonath for both side.

[Rusty]

... and the point of this was?
It's just going to turn into another long winding topic of people at each others throats.

[Pablo Escobar]

... and the point of this was?
It's just going to turn into another long winding topic of people at each others throats.

There's no pointing at something ,i decided to put share whats in my mind and what i see while i was playing in argonath ,that's all there's no flaming or complaning about someone its like a guide what you can do with in cop duty ,what you cannot do with criminal player.

[Devin]

+ You have all free cars/moto-bikes and helicopters around you.  - Officers are required to use PD vehicles.
+ You can simply /su player and kill him like hunting animals.  - Just no.
+ You can ramm someone criminal to spot him its not an abuse at all  - No.
+ You can report someone in front of you with /report ,if he's doing something wrong.  - What?
+ You can go on duty in 5 minutes with all conditions.  - What?
+ You can force RP's as a bad cop or dity cop.  - Forced roleplay from any "side" is not allowed.
+ You can use Hydra/Hunter if you have enough rank to use them.  - No, that's air-division only and it is restricted.
+ You can suspect someone while they're dealing drugs.  - Duh? It's illegal dealing.
+ You can kill someone mistaken you wont get suspected ( You'll fined with $500 )  - Killing a civilian is counted as deathmatching and is punishable.
+ You'll not going to lose anything when you get killed ( You'll have a chance to return back also )
+ You dont need to work for something else car or anything since government will give you all for free.  - Do you really expect cops to buy their own PD cars?
+ You can hunt any criminal IG w/o organized RP just notice orange dot in game and storm in  - Criminal.. explains enough? Cops are there to take down suspects, whether that is jailing or killing them.

Criminals with benefits:

+ You cannot return after death
+ You have to work harder to get some deagly weapon which costs really high $ with current system   - You don't have to be wanted to be a criminal, nor do you need weapons to roleplay as a criminal.
+ You dont have any cars,bike,helicopter unless you work for them  - Nothing comes free in life, if you want something then you work for it.
+ You cannot kill someone w/o RP  - Honestly? No shit.
+ You can ramm people , but its a rule break.  - See above.
+ You cannot report cop IG , you have to find out evidences to report him and making this report you have to be fit in RP to obtaining stuff.  - SAPD have their own method of handling those breaking the rules whilst on duty therefore it's not administrations duty to babysit officers unless the player is being a disruption or actual problem.
+ You just cannot RP as a criminal if you dont have anything on your hand. People wont fear your fists.  - It's not like people are scared of a combat shotgun which was removed from an anus either. Guns are merely additions to roleplay.
+ You cannot use any government vehicle like cop cruiser even if you kill cop you cannot steal the car.  - Just like cops can't use your personal vehicles (If locked) /group vehicles.
+ You dont have permission to use Hydra/Hunter you cannot steal them.  - And again, then we would have every second criminal flying around shooting players as if this is some deathmatch server.
+ You'll lose your cash when you get killed as a criminal  - You can't die without losing something otherwise why would you fear dying while wanted? If you had nothing to lose then what would stop you from going on a shooting spree with officers?
+ You'll lose your weapons and armour everything on you even the drugs if you forgot the put them to containers.  - Stash your items if you value them, get into the habit.
+ You have to travel around SA all day long for drug spots and find out empty spot and grow it with risk people still may steal it. Even If you done with drugs you have to sell them and you may get scammed its a risk too.  - Scamming happens, illegal deals go sour. Find people you trust and deal with them.
+ You cannot kill cops while you helping your friend to evade since you suppose play as a team,Unless get suspected you'll have a chance to help someone.  - And again, to avoid one suspect leading to a group of 10 shooting at officers because the officers shot at their "friend".

 

[Polar]

PS: Its not about complaining against criminal side or cop side

This contradicts the post.

[Pablo Escobar]

This contradicts the post.

Nope ,its not actually


If you playing as a cop , i'd like to see your list with benefits too ,i'm looking on my side how its actually looks like ,you can post your list too feel free

[kevinarens]

Hilarious topic man, I hope you are trolling!? 
1. 50% or more of the cop benefits are invalid..?
Example: "You can suspect someone while they're dealing drugs." , " You can go on duty in 5 minutes with all conditions." , ....
2. How are those things you say benefits for the criminals?
Example: "You have to travel around SA all day long for drug spots and find out empty spot and grow it with risk people still may steal it. Even If you done with drugs you have to sell them and you may get scammed its a risk too."
How is that a benefit for a criminal? and It's your own risk of ordering..

[Pablo Escobar]

Hilarious topic man, I hope you are trolling!? 
1. 50% or more of the cop benefits are invalid..?
Example: "You can suspect someone while they're dealing drugs." , " You can go on duty in 5 minutes with all conditions." , ....
2. How are those things you say benefits for the criminals?
Example: "You have to travel around SA all day long for drug spots and find out empty spot and grow it with risk people still may steal it. Even If you done with drugs you have to sell them and you may get scammed its a risk too."
How is that a benefit for a criminal? and It's your own risk of ordering..

Yes,its criminals benefits you can deal drugs and travel around SA all day long and you have your own risk ,and its criminal players benefits

[kevinarens]

Criminals with benefits:

+ You cannot return after death
+ You have to work harder to get some deagly weapon which costs really high $ with current system
+ You dont have any cars,bike,helicopter unless you work for them
+ You cannot kill someone w/o RP
+ You can ramm people , but its a rule break.
+ You cannot report cop IG , you have to find out evidences to report him and making this report you have to be fit in RP to obtaining stuff.
+ You just cannot RP as a criminal if you dont have anything on your hand. People wont fear your fists.
+ You cannot force someone IG like RPly or not you just can't force someone
+ You cannot use any government vehicle like cop cruiser even if you kill cop you cannot steal the car.
+ You dont have permission to use Hydra/Hunter you cannot steal them.
+ You'll lose your cash when you get killed as a criminal
+ You'll lose your weapons and armour everything on you even the drugs if you forgot the put them to containers.
+ You have to travel around SA all day long for drug spots and find out empty spot and grow it with risk people still may steal it. Even If you done with drugs you have to sell them and you may get scammed its a risk too.
+ You cannot kill cops while you helping your friend to evade since you suppose play as a team,Unless get suspected you'll have a chance to help someone.

benefits?
All I read is: You cannot, You'll lose, etcetera..
So it's a benefit that you lose your cash as a criminal?

[Pablo Escobar]

benefits?
All I read is: You cannot, You'll lose, etcetera..
So it's a benefit that you lose your cash as a criminal?

Yes mostly I waste my cash for drugs and weapons and luxury houses bussines or any kind , that means I have enough cash to waste which is benefit for me , imagine if I don't have any ?

[Nexus_Riggs]

I also see no benefit or any positive outcome out of this topic. Criminals have countless amount of opportunities to create good roleplay scenes, but most of them end up with unnecessary shootouts and TDM. If you want to change something, then start by encouraging people to roleplay with each other, especially police and you won't be disappointed. 

[Teddy]

We're gonna throw the breaks up right here.

Be useful next time and encourage a positive discussion not just list what you "think" which will only lead down a very negative path. Suggest change; how you think that change would benefit the server and the community.