Malaysia airliner crashes in east Ukraine near Russia border

[[WS]Jacob]

To who and why?

To the world. Why? Because their money which has been given to fund these separatists has resulted in a plane being shot down and innocent people being killed.

[Morphine]

It really does not matter which side of the conflict you support. The thing is, whoever did this is a f**king monster

Well done, you came to this conclusion only after about 3 posts of sending Russia to hell and back. I understand though, it's in the nature of every proud Lithuanian EU citizen to blame the evil Russians for anything that goes on on the planet. I suggest we all start blaming Russia for bad weather too.

On topic though, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned earlier but there's a theory that this airplane could have been the same MA plane that went missing last time. Another theory I'm sure hasn't been mentioned here and will sound very stupid at first sight is that the plane may have been filled with nothing but corpses because as far I as am aware, there still have not been any official records on the passengers on board of the plane and as far as I take it, the main purpose of this shoot down was to get the airplane to crash on Russian soil which, unfortunately enough for the perpetrators, did not happen.

Now the purpose of it crashing on Russian soil is very simple. It is quite obvious that detail will be ignored when it comes to such spontaneous incidents, and the only thing people will be talking about is that Russia shot it down. I'm not going to go too deep into why because it is common sense.

[yoske]

To the world. Why? Because their money which has been given to fund these separatists has resulted in a plane being shot down and innocent people being killed.

I don't see world policeman explaining his actions to the world... Innocent people are getting killed on daily bases in Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc and still nothing... I am not sure they have to explain why (if) they are supporting one of two divided fractions. And don't be too sure evil Russians took down that plane

[clancker]

Russian Rebels tweeted "We told you not to fly in our airspace" or something similar the second the plane went down. Minutes later after it was released MH17 was downed, the tweet disappeared.

Russian Rebels have been spotted with BUK missile launchers that as old as they are, are incredibly accurate and a well done piece of engineering.

Because of the flight direction, to Russian Rebels it would look as though the plane was coming from Eastern Ukraine, rather than Russia from the west.

Today Putin was spotted at a church, likely for a confession about flight MH17.

Russian Rebels are trying to claim the bodies that fell from the wreckage as it came down in pieces were "Days old, drained of blood and already decomposing".

Russians are guilty.

[yoske]

Russian Rebels tweeted "We told you not to fly in our airspace" or something similar the second the plane went down. Minutes later after it was released MH17 was downed, the tweet disappeared.

Russian Rebels have been spotted with BUK missile launchers that as old as they are, are incredibly accurate and a well done piece of engineering.

Because of the flight direction, to Russian Rebels it would look as though the plane was coming from Eastern Ukraine, rather than Russia from the west.

Today Putin was spotted at a church, likely for a confession about flight MH17.

Russian Rebels are trying to claim the bodies that fell from the wreckage as it came down in pieces were "Days old, drained of blood and already decomposing".

Russians are guilty.

 

I hope this is just troll post like that topic... otherwise 

[Morais]

go return those 200 euros u owe

that answer was brilliant.

Nothing will happen, everyone is too afraid to move.

[Jenny_Adams]

On topic though, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned earlier but there's a theory that this airplane could have been the same MA plane that went missing last time.

False. The missing one's registration was 9M-MRO. This one was 9M-MRD (also the one you've seen around the internet uploaded by Dutch guy saying "If it disappears, this is what it looks like" is also not the one shot down. It's 9M-MRC and not 9M-MRD.

Another theory I'm sure hasn't been mentioned here and will sound very stupid at first sight is that the plane may have been filled with nothing but corpses because as far I as am aware, there still have not been any official records on the passengers on board of the plane and as far as I take it, the main purpose of this shoot down was to get the airplane to crash on Russian soil which, unfortunately enough for the perpetrators, did not happen.

You're right, it sure sounds very stupid. There will always be theories and many mysteries but all we have now is wait for the investigation and legit proofs.
Personally I think you can't just blame Russia without a clear evidence of them commiting such crime, nor can you blame the other.
Media will always exaggerate and make their own stories up. Don't always stupidly trust the media, trust the facts.

[_Jimmy_]

I'm not saying anything, but on Polish news, they gave us to hear some contact with the Russian Army General and some other guy, The R.A.G. said "This is war kurwa"

[Reece]

Have a bit of respect. If I have to clear out shit similar to what I just have there will be more than warnings coming your way.

If you can not debate without personal attacks you are not welcome to use this board.
Do not post images not related to the topic.

[Jelle_Snijder]

195 Dutch victims.. One friend of mine.. Terrible terrible accident...

[[WS]Jacob]

And don't be too sure evil Russians took down that plane

It wasn't Russians who took down the plane. It was Ukrainians who are supported and funded by the Russian government.

[Jelle_Snijder]

It wasn't Russians who took down the plane. It was Ukrainians who are supported and funded by the Russian government.

Exactly. The plane had permission to fly above 5km's. They were flying 10km's high. The ukrainians thought it was a cargo plane transporting spies.

[yoske]

It wasn't Russians who took down the plane. It was Ukrainians who are supported and funded by the Russian government.

Just like those snipers shooting down civilians in Kyiv town square were funded by Russians.. or it was otherside and blackwater merccenaries?

[Ramis]

The thing is: There is only a minority of Ukrainians in those "republics" government. So they shouldnt be called as "Ukrainians" just because action goes in territory of Ukraine. So makes people confuse and think its Ukrainians the badasses.

[Cofiliano]

It wasn't Russians who took down the plane. It was Ukrainians who are supported and funded by the Russian government.

You know this for sure? You were there, you got informations, papers, documents of it?

This goes for alot of people on this topic, you are mixing things here. The pro-russian rebels(among who there is a LARGE number of Ukrainians) are people who are fighting for freedom, they don't want to live in a NATO country, would any of you Americans/British/Netherland/Sweden/etc people accept the fact, that Russia made a illegal strike with few thousands people in your country and are forcing them to become a USSR country? Of course not the whole western world would moan for you and your country, well the pro-russian rebels are doing exactly that, and if you don't accept their legitimize fight for it, you're being a total utter biased and retarded hypocrit.


Cause that's what NATO/USA are doing right now in Ukraine. You people speak about 'bad boys Russians' how they wanna dominate and conquer their surrounding countries, while the fact is that NATO/USA is doing that to the Ukraine right now. And this people don't want to live in a such country.

Let me remind you one more time, that the central Government in Ukraine wasn't elected, it wasn't choosed by Ukrainine people, it was forced by an angry mob at Maidan who was made by western itelligence agency, mob of 5-6k people not few millions like it usually happens in revolutions, in a country of 40millions people!? So 5k people elected the new Government in Ukraine! That's whats happening here.

Also, its not any country we are talking about, its  Ukraine, the birthplace of Russia! Its like Virgina to USA.