What's happening in gaza?

[DiFronzo]

You answered to just ONE of my five remarks and you gave me something I can't even work with. Advanced intelligence implies advancement in technology and they wouldn't even need to knock roofs and abort strikes if their Intel is so sound and free of doubt. Face it man, you don't know jack-shit about Israeli Intel.
I'm supposed to watch which videos? The ones recorded by IDF? Mate I don't even watch Palestinian media because no matter what side you're on, there's always bias in the media. All I know is Palestinian children/women are dying and Israelis don't give a rat's ass.

Need I remind you of what Ayelet Shithead (possible misspelling of the last name; need confirmation) said? http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/
Is that the peace-seeking Israel you're trying to show us? If so, you've failed miserably.

About Israel's intelligence:
I've been in many lectures regarding Israel's intelligence,
and they CAN regognize and locate almost every house, and especially in Gaza, for instance "Waffa Hospital", the proof is in the previous page.

About the video:
The video is from an arabic news channel, not Israel's, and the Hamas Spokesman himself said that Hamas uses the civilians as human shields,
and he seems to be proud of it.
How can Israel kill the terrorists when they hide behind its civilians?
I'm pretty sure most of the world is aware of it but some try to deny it.
All you can do is moan that "Israel kills civilians", even though you know that the coward terrorists are responsible.
In addition, I would like to say that it is funny that then people say that Hamas is the army of Gaza and they protect its civilians,
and that IDF are terrorists.

You either can't see it, or try to deny it.

Additionally, of course Israel wants peace, Hamas doesn't (obviously...).
The only way we can have peace is to eliminate all terrorists.
Every person can think and say anything he has in mind (At least in Israel),
as long as he doesn't hurt or harm anyone or anything.
Not like the terorist in Jerusalem, that killed a man and flipped a bus, yesterday.

And by the way, Ayelet is a radical right-wing retard, believe it or not, I agree with you. She really is a shithead.
It's sad that things like that are not published enough in Israel but in the world.
I didn't know about what Ayelet said until now.

[Doggie]

 Make love. Not war.

[DiFronzo]

Make love. Not war.

Well yeah, but you can't love a terror organization.

[DiFronzo]

Sorry for double-posting.

Some people said that posting Gaza's/Israel's sources are pointless,
so here is an indian reporter, showing that Hamas launches rockets near houses and hotels.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Hamas launches rockets from hospitals.

Spoiler for Hiden:

For the people who don't believe that Israel warns first:
(Also not Israel's source)

Spoiler for Hiden:

You can see that Israel firsts launches a not-lethal bomb before launching the lethal one.

[KhornateMonkey]

Make love. Not war.

[Ragdoll]

For the people who don't believe that Israel warns first:
(Also not Israel's source)

Spoiler for Hiden:

You can see that Israel firsts launches a not-lethal bomb before launching the lethal one.

Actually it's not that people don't believe it. It's the fact that it's useless because here's the scenario:

-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A move to Area B
-Israel bombs Area A and B. --> Fucked either way.
OR
-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A don't have enough time to move to Area B. ---> Fucked.

[DiFronzo]

Actually it's not that people don't believe it. It's the fact that it's useless because here's the scenario:

-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A move to Area B
-Israel bombs Area A and B. --> Fucked either way.
OR
-Israel knocks on roof in Area A.
-People in Area A don't have enough time to move to Area B. ---> Fucked.

Did you see the video or not?
You can see in the third video that the buildings nearby don't take any damage.
You can also see in other videos the same thing.

[Ragdoll]

Did you see the video or not?
You can see in the third video that the buildings nearby don't take any damage.
You can also see in other videos the same thing.

So yeah... At 0:08, a warning strike hits. 1 minute and 6 seconds later, an F16 rocket (judging by what's written in the video) hits the building.
You do know old people actually live in apartments there right? And I don't know how old people in Israel are, but for the ones who have been suffering their entire life, Palestinian elders sure as Hell aren't Usain Bolt. They gave them 1 minute and 6 seconds to leave. It's like saying "we're about to destroy your house and there's a 90% chance you're gonna die too. You want to take stuff with you? HA, fuck you."
Then the second rocket hits. "What's that? You ACTUALLY survived the first one? Fuck you again."

[DiFronzo]

So yeah... At 0:08, a warning strike hits. 1 minute and 6 seconds later, an F16 rocket (judging by what's written in the video) hits the building.
You do know old people actually live in apartments there right?

Israel can see if the occupants leave or not.

It's like saying "we're about to destroy your house and there's a 90% chance you're gonna die too. You want to take stuff with you? HA, f**k you."
Then the second rocket hits. "What's that? You ACTUALLY survived the first one? Fuck you again."[/font]

Sure, if that's what you want to think.

[JDC]

Suspect in kidnapping, murder of 3 Israeli teens arrested

Hossam Kawasmeh, arrested on July 11, admitted to leading cell which abducted and murdered Gil-Ad Schaer, Eyal Yifrach, and Naftali Frenkel; He received funds from Hamas.

A suspect in the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in the West Bank was arrested on July 11, it was released for publication on Tuesday. Hussam Kawasmeh was arrested at a relative's home in 'Anata near Jerusalem.

Kawasmeh received funding for the terror attack from Hamas members in the Gaza Strip. He was arrested by Yamam, an elite counter-terror unit, following a tip from the Shin Bet.
 
After the discovery of the bodies of Gil-Ad Schaer, Eyal Yifrach, and Naftali Frenkel, the suspect left his home and went into hiding, relying on his family members, with the hope of reaching Jordan using forged documents.


Marwan Kawasmeh and Amar Abu-Eisha have yet to be caught. (Photo: AP)

During his interrogation he admitted that he led the cell that executed the attack – which included Marwan Kawasmeh and  – who have yet to be captured. As leader of the group, Hossam raised the funds for the attack from Hamas operatives in Gaza.
 
He admitted to purchasing equipment, which he passed on to Marwan Kawasmeh.


The three murdered Israeli teens: Eyal Yifrach (left), Gil-ad Shaer (center), and Naftali Frenkel (right).

During his interrogation, it was discovered that after the murder, Marwan arrived at his home and the two drove to the plot of land – which Hossam had purchased two months earlier – where they had buried the bodies.
 
Hossam continued to help hide his two accomplices to the kidnap and murder.
 
Kawasmeh's involvement with the cell which conducted the kidnapping and murder was discovered through a government response on Tuesday regarding an appeal to the High Court of Justice against the demolition of the three terrorists' homes.

Israel noted that there is administrative evidence which points to the near certainty that the three executed the kidnap and murder but that it could not divulge details because two were still wanted. (source)


Hamas are the ones putting Palestinians in danger.

While Israelis are open to a two-state solution that could let both peoples co-exist peacefully, you can read the Hamas charter and see that a fundamental part of their mission is the destruction of Israelis and the Jews.

"'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees,  and  the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.'
(Article 7, Hamas Charter)

Gaza is a very densely populated area compared to Israel, which is why any attempts to retaliate against Hamas have a higher chance of casualties compared to Hamas firing missiles into Israel. (not to mention the Iron Dome)

Both sides have their share of wrongs. But as long as Hamas' goal is to destroy Israel, peaceful coexistence cannot occur. Gaza must be freed from Hamas and violence put to an end.

[Ragdoll]

Israel can see if the occupants leave or not.

Bullshit. You can't fully evacuate a building in just over a minute, no matter how small. Want to take down a building? Make sure there isn't a shred of doubt that there's anyone in it. Don't just go on the hunch and say "yeah we gave 'em enough time... do it.".

"'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees,  and  the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.'

Quote (hadith) by Muhammad Al Bukhari. Just some info for those who care.

As for the general situation over there, I don't follow their news 24/7 because right now there are attempts at an invasion of Lebanon at the hands of ISIL, and priorities are to be considered. Anyway, this pretty much sums it up for what I think:

Both sides have their share of wrongs. But as long as Hamas' goal is to destroy Israel, peaceful coexistence cannot occur. Gaza must be freed from Hamas and violence put to an end.

[taseen11]

Suspect in kidnapping, murder of 3 Israeli teens arrested

Hossam Kawasmeh, arrested on July 11, admitted to leading cell which abducted and murdered Gil-Ad Schaer, Eyal Yifrach, and Naftali Frenkel; He received funds from Hamas.

A suspect in the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in the West Bank was arrested on July 11, it was released for publication on Tuesday. Hussam Kawasmeh was arrested at a relative's home in 'Anata near Jerusalem.

Kawasmeh received funding for the terror attack from Hamas members in the Gaza Strip. He was arrested by Yamam, an elite counter-terror unit, following a tip from the Shin Bet.
 

[DiFronzo]

It's amazing how people distort facts to the way they want.

• Dozens of humanitarian cease-fire were suggested, and Israel accepted them right away.
  Hamas did accept the cease-fire, but they kept shooting rockets to Israel's houses.
• "IDF shoots Gaza citizens"? Please, don't be ridicules.
  You know that Hamas is responsible for Gaza citizens' death, stop denying.
  Since Hamas terrorists are cowards, they hide behind their families, and you know it.
  When they die, you start complaining when you know if it wasn't for Hamas, they'd be alive.
  In fact, sometimes, Hamas don't let a target's innocent occupants leave the area.
• IDF only arrests the Palestinians who support terror and the ones who assist the terrorists.
  Israel soldiers don't simply pick an innocent citizen and decide to arrest/beat him.

Bullshit

How can Israel easily locate buildings, but can't see if a building's occupants leave the area or not?

[Dean.]

[DiFronzo]

Yeah that's what I posted earlier.