We have to get the server back in line.

[AK47]

People left because they lost their money, RS4 will still give you 0 money, when will you all fucking learn

[Mikal]

People moan that HQ are strict on keeping people silent, but in this topic I think they need to be, it's time to get rid of all those moaning that the server is "shit" and saying that RS4 should be brought back, or will all this just continue on into 2015 and keep bringing everyone down because people can't just get over the fact that nothing is going to change now other than improvements to RS5, deal with it and I think it needs to be said - shut up about the "shit" server and RS4, if you don't like it, why keep coming here?

[TheLegitHabibi]

People left because they lost their money, RS4 will still give you 0 money, when will you all f**king learn

No. People left because RS5 was extremely buggy, complicated and was built purely how the "HQ" wanted it.
While the players who played, has almost no input in the scripts, ideas, jobs etcetera. Plus HQ made a hype as if they're making GTA V but it turned out to be not as expected.

People didn't leave becaues they lost their money. When will the admins fucking learn the real issue.

[Mikal]

No. People left because RS5 was extremely buggy, complicated and was built purely how the "HQ" wanted it.
While the players who played, has almost no input in the scripts, ideas, jobs etcetera. Plus HQ made a hype as if they're making GTA V but it turned out to be not as expected.

People didn't leave becaues they lost their money. When will the admins f**king learn the real issue.

What did people expect out of a 10 year old game? The game was of course going to look the same it was just the scripts that would be different, I bet that if everyone kept their money they would never have left, they would have just adjusted to RS5 no matter how buggy it was at the time or atleast given scripters some time to fix some of the bugs then came back, a big problem is some of the players, some who still play on the server despite their constant shitting on it.

[eymas]

Some did leave due to the loss of assets.
Some left due to the scripts being bugged.
Some left due to their shattered expectations.
Some left due to their education/job/loss of interest.

Anything is possible, and most of us acknowledge either of these options.
There's no problem with personal opinion however. the problem usually escalates to application of your views.

[Luke]

No. People left because RS5 was extremely buggy, complicated and was built purely how the "HQ" wanted it.
While the players who played, has almost no input in the scripts, ideas, jobs etcetera. Plus HQ made a hype as if they're making GTA V but it turned out to be not as expected.

People didn't leave becaues they lost their money. When will the admins f**king learn the real issue.

So why do you still play?

[Stivi]

No. People left because RS5 was extremely buggy, complicated and was built purely how the "HQ" wanted it.
While the players who played, has almost no input in the scripts, ideas, jobs etcetera. Plus HQ made a hype as if they're making GTA V but it turned out to be not as expected.

People didn't leave becaues they lost their money. When will the admins f**king learn the real issue.

And you would know that because ? I mean, you were banned, no ?

[TheLegitHabibi]

So why do you still play?

Ohhh, Luke doesn't have an argument and comes up with this thing argonath has.
"oh you don't like something? Why do you play here?? We will not listen to what you say and we have nothing in return to support ourselves, so we just say this yes."

[Mikal]

Ohhh, Luke doesn't have an argument and comes up with this thing argonath has.
"oh you don't like something? Why do you play here?? We will not listen to what you say and we have nothing in return to support ourselves, so we just say this yes."

It's a valid argument, if you don't like the server why do you play here...? They have already said that the server isn't going to change so what is the point in moping round bitching?

[Luke]

Ohhh, Luke doesn't have an argument and comes up with this thing argonath has.
"oh you don't like something? Why do you play here?? We will not listen to what you say and we have nothing in return to support ourselves, so we just say this yes."

Well guessing by the way you complain about the server I would of thought you wouldn't play here, also its free until you have to pay for something your comments will be invalid in my view. Don't like something? Want change? Give the ideas on what you want to change.

Also its not the Admins fault by the way, they are just sever admins, thats all they have no input on the server, the only people do are the scripters + server owners.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Well guessing by the way you complain about the server I would of thought you wouldn't play here, also its free until you have to pay for something your comments will be invalid in my view. Don't like something? Want change? Give the ideas on what you want to change.

Also its not the Admins fault by the way, they are just sever admins, thats all they have no input on the server, the only people do are the scripters + server owners.

Dear Luke, if you bothered to read all my posts here you'd find lots of ideas I suggested. But you look at one post and judge people and come up with useless arguments.

I never blamed the admins. I used the phrase "When will the admins fucking learn" as a reply to your kind and dearest admin who blames it on players with "When will you guys fucking learn".   

Just wanted to prove Emmet wrong. No need to go ham on me for blaming admins. We all know who's fault it is.

I suggest ya'll start discussions suggestions given instead of derailin' and discussing the obvious.
We all have agreed that's its RS5. Now we've all input varoius ideas to improve RS5, can we move on with the discussion?

[Mikal]

Dear Luke, if you bothered to read all my posts here you'd find lots of ideas I suggested. But you look at one post and judge people and come up with useless arguments.

I never blamed the admins. I used the phrase "When will the admins f**king learn" as a reply to your kind and dearest admin who blames it on players with "When will you guys f**king learn".   

Just wanted to prove Emmet wrong. No need to go ham on me for blaming admins. We all know who's fault it is.

I suggest ya'll start discussions suggestions given instead of derailin' and discussing the obvious.
We all have agreed that's its RS5. Now we've all input varoius ideas to improve RS5, can we move on with the discussion?

No need to contradict yourself..

[ShawmMoe]

Now we've all input varoius ideas to improve RS5, can we move on with the discussion?

They won't learn and apparently we won't learn either. Not much to gain from discussing when the other side of the table keeps the "go ingame instead of moaning" mentality.
They made a great SA:MP server and they are the reason for its downfall. Not because of its age (lame reason btw look at other games/servers) or because of 300+ players being moneyhungry.

But hey, accepting reality is always the most difficult part. I'll give you that

[Duncan_James]

@Stivi: Listen buddy, you're here since 2012 and i'm here since 2008. I know how Argonath was and is now. Back in RS3/RS4/RS4.1, around 4 AM, yes 4 AM, there was atleast 20 players. You didn't know that i guess, oh wait! That's because you weren't there. Calling people dumb because you failed to prove your point won't get you anywhere buddy. It's not about realising every player's ideas and dreams, because this is stupid, but i'm talking about facts, i'm answering many questions of who wonder why the rate of players in Argonath RPG has dropped. Now i'm not saying that the HQ must or should roll back to RS3/RS4/RS4.1, simply because i can't and i'm not allowed to. If it's realised, even after a while, you'll see the difference. If not, trust me buddy, i have nothing to lose, because all i did was explaining the main, real reasons of this issue.

[AK47]

RS4 with a rollback won't bring back anyone.