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Reply #45 on: September 12, 2014, 12:16:38 pm
Strongly against the spike strips script. Criminals will never be equal to cops but giving them spike strips is too much. I may be a criminal but I sometimes spend a lot of time as a cop.



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Reply #46 on: September 12, 2014, 12:56:12 pm
Strongly against the spike strips script. Criminals will never be equal to cops but giving them spike strips is too much. I may be a criminal but I sometimes spend a lot of time as a cop.

And here we go with equality about the 2 groups. Did you even read any of the arguments above?

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Reply #47 on: September 12, 2014, 01:54:13 pm
Spikestrips won't be destructive as many people may think. Police enforcement is so disorganised,most of times they are unable set a car roadblock,what about spikestrip one. They have better tendency chase after suspect in straight lane while suspects vehicle is faster.
It would iniciate player interest,and wont be a bad deal,besides you can always remove it if it damages the server. But it won't increase player activity.
As about "get two friends of yours to play" .... I'm sorry not trying sound like an ass.hole but what exact material in Argonath we have to keep those friends entertained?

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Reply #48 on: September 12, 2014, 02:01:35 pm
As a full time criminal, I personally don't have anything against spike strips, probably brings more fun into escaping cops. ;)

But guys, there's lots of stuff in higher priority than spike strips. Think about PnS's, bizz profit bug, weapon restore bug. Don't you think?

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Reply #49 on: September 12, 2014, 02:19:38 pm
About the spikes ... I know that I probably am kinda biased even though I've been both an SAPD Officer and a Criminal in RS4 ... First of all, even now the two sides are not equal, why? Simply because the PD will always have the numbers, while the criminals won't. Adding a spike script is not a good idea, not only because it will outbalance it but also because they are hardly enough organised to put it to good use, so it will be wasted time of our scripters ... they could already set up road blocks at bridges, but they don't..

Unfortunatelly even though I do agree that slow change is the way up!


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Reply #50 on: September 12, 2014, 02:22:27 pm
About the spikes ... I know that I probably am kinda biased even though I've been both an SAPD Officer and a Criminal in RS4 ... First of all, even now the two sides are not equal, why? Simply because the PD will always have the numbers, while the criminals won't. Adding a spike script is not a good idea, not only because it will outbalance it but also because they are hardly enough organised to put it to good use, so it will be wasted time of our scripters ... they could already set up road blocks at bridges, but they don't..

Unfortunatelly even though I do agree that slow change is the way up!
There is no balance,you're criminal and your support is your fellow criminals. Police is goverment,and Police support is goverment. Besides it's easy to evade spike strips unless you decide head for SF/LS tunnel and end up surprised.

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Reply #51 on: September 12, 2014, 04:57:55 pm
One time I agree you with Chris.
Ain't no need to keep these 2 "balanced". This ain't no TDM server where 2 teams have to be equal.
This is a roleplay server. Mafia has access to various guns. You're lucky argonath is giving you access to Ammunation where you can buy any gun you like including armour.

If I make a roleplay server, ill ban ammunation for criminals since its not correct considering the realism. But argonath isn't a RL server so you're getting the ammunation.
Spike strips is a cool script.

Slowly we can keep suggesting nice ideas and improve RS5 as a whole!

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Reply #52 on: September 12, 2014, 05:03:51 pm
In my eyes it's over, needs to be said.. :janek:

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Reply #53 on: September 12, 2014, 09:15:36 pm
I see nothing wrong with scripts, players aren't willing to join because the scripters aren't listening to them.In my opinion the scripters are doing a great job and they should stick with what they are currently working on.


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Reply #54 on: September 12, 2014, 10:13:01 pm
I see nothing wrong with scripts, players aren't willing to join because the scripters aren't listening to them.In my opinion the scripters are doing a great job and they should stick with what they are currently working on.

This is a rather good explanation, unfortunatelly if that is the case, there is nothing we can do about it, therefor I personally hope that this is not the reason. Justice is indeed rare in our server, and I am in no position to do anything for that, but I can atleast struggle to get some nice ideas for our scripts, to make them both useful, realistic, fun, and remain within our Vision's borders.


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Reply #55 on: September 12, 2014, 10:39:08 pm
Years ago, I said that developers themselves with their attitude will ram the server into its death.

And yet I was dismissed with the "Troll" tag.

But they didn't listen. They didn't want to. So they chose to ban me. Yet I closely watch the progress of the server, just out of curiosity, how will it manage to stay afloat.

It didn't.



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Reply #56 on: September 12, 2014, 11:04:14 pm
No worries mate, the community will survive as long as it can and we are here to support it no matter what.


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Reply #57 on: September 12, 2014, 11:23:29 pm
I do appreciate for all the hard work and dedication the whole scripter team have done for Argonath. The amount of time they have used on scripting, fixing bugs and improving the server.

I know Zaila and everyone else kept saying " ", that's cool... But try making the server/scripts abit similar to RS4 somehow, so we can enjoy playing again!

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Reply #58 on: September 12, 2014, 11:39:37 pm
I do appreciate for all the hard work and dedication the whole scripter team have done for Argonath. The amount of time they have used on scripting, fixing bugs and improving the server.

I know Zaila and everyone else kept saying " ", that's cool... But try making the server/scripts abit similar to RS4 somehow, so we can enjoy the playing again!
Now thats what i am talking about, If you want stuff similar to RS4 or anything that you want changed or removed... this is the right way to request/ask.


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Reply #59 on: September 13, 2014, 04:01:02 am
Ain't no need to keep these 2 "balanced".
It's astonishing people are still touting this point of view, and even more astounding that these same people are then confused as to why the server's player count has dropped so dramatically.

Years ago, I said that developers themselves with their attitude will ram the server into its death.

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