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Reply #45 on: December 12, 2007, 12:49:54 am
When you look to chemistry you see that molecules exits of atoms, atoms are electrons revolving around neutrons. There are differend kind of neutrons, as some have more and others have less electrons. When you examine neutrons, they look like little suns. Electrons look like little planets. We are living on one elctron of an atom in a molecule on DNA in a cell in a living person. That person lives on a platen that actually is just an electron...... I just broke my mind. :conf:

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and broke mine, I guess you either have a good memory or do chemistry.

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Reply #46 on: December 12, 2007, 12:51:20 am
When you look to chemistry you see that molecules exits of atoms, atoms are electrons revolving around neutrons. There are differend kind of neutrons, as some have more and others have less electrons. When you examine neutrons, they look like little suns. Electrons look like little planets. We are living on one elctron of an atom in a molecule on DNA in a cell in a living person. That person lives on a platen that actually is just an electron...... I just broke my mind. :conf:
Not quite since electrons don't describe elliptical trajectories like planets.

And like I was trying to explain, chemic elements also suffer transformations, you can say they are alive(noobishly), amoebas were very simple beeings, they were almost like molecules suffering chemical reactions.



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Reply #47 on: December 12, 2007, 01:11:50 am
Everything has a limit, including common sense, no matter how much I praise it. From there we can only speculate, but after the minisclue ball of mass responsible for the big bang erupted, giant lumps of elements and matter formed to what we have today. Amoeba was created by tiny carbon molecules, as was the earth. Science can predict what happened from then on. If anything, you've just backed up my point by allowing me to explain how common sense can bypass these boundaries, and think up new soloutions to these problems, rather then claiming it fails and trying to disprove it's usefulness.

Anyway, in May 2008, when the LHC is switched on, we'll understand it all.
This is where once again common sense fails and makes up stupid ideas of who created the "everything" (god).

I'm an agnostic, I don't believe in anything untill I see some solid proof, as for I can not say I believe in evolution, cause your so called common sense just aint solid enough. There are many other possibilities then the fac that we where monkeys.

Ofc I do believe in some sort of evolution, that we have came from something else, and we have evolved. But I can't say I believe we have once been... fishes, monkeys or w/e.

Ofc the human body is build up with hundreds of cells, so a possibility is that we where actually built up like this, as we are now. That cells for billions of years ago made man, as we are now. But as time has passed we have lost all memory of our past etc.

There are many many many many many many ways to describe how we where "created", and therefor I stay neutral and say I don't believe in it, untill I see some proof.
    So Really I can't say I dont' believe in it, but I don't know what to believe, as for I stay neutral untill I see the proof.

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Reply #48 on: December 12, 2007, 01:14:05 am
You can always blame "the system".  :bird:



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Reply #49 on: December 12, 2007, 03:13:58 pm
I bet claire will try to persuade you to believe in that bible shit, don't fall for it.

Insulting the feeling of religious people...
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Reply #50 on: December 12, 2007, 03:35:56 pm
When you look to chemistry you see that molecules exits of atoms, atoms are electrons revolving around neutrons. There are differend kind of neutrons, as some have more and others have less electrons. When you examine neutrons, they look like little suns. Electrons look like little planets. We are living on one elctron of an atom in a molecule on DNA in a cell in a living person. That person lives on a platen that actually is just an electron...... I just broke my mind. :conf:
when you are going on that kind of loops then make it a bit longer Gandalf. Atoms consists of electrons, that are orbits around the atomic nucleus what is made of protons and neutrons. Protons and neutrons are made of even smaller particles called quarks and leptons.
Rest is more like philosophy.
now quarks and leptons are made of even smaller particles, little vibrating strings of energy. But strings can also expand. It expands as big as it makes the whole universe, which brings us back to the beginning.



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Reply #51 on: December 12, 2007, 10:43:17 pm
Insulting the feeling of religious people...
Warned...

Did I got rly warned? :wow:

It's just the way I talk. I wasn't trying to insult no one.
when you are going on that kind of loops then make it a bit longer Gandalf. Atoms consists of electrons, that are orbits around the atomic nucleus what is made of protons and neutrons. Protons and neutrons are made of even smaller particles called quarks and leptons.
Rest is more like philosophy.
now quarks and leptons are made of even smaller particles, little vibrating strings of energy. But strings can also expand. It expands as big as it makes the whole universe, which brings us back to the beginning.
I see you know some shit.
Help me explain to Abe how atoms can became living creatures.



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Reply #52 on: December 12, 2007, 11:37:02 pm
Please do explaine exactly how an atom becomes a living creature.

Also, I know what an atom is and what it can do, but everyone fails to tell me where the atom comes from.

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Reply #53 on: December 13, 2007, 01:00:41 am
when you are going on that kind of loops then make it a bit longer Gandalf. Atoms consists of electrons, that are orbits around the atomic nucleus what is made of protons and neutrons. Protons and neutrons are made of even smaller particles called quarks and leptons.
Rest is more like philosophy.
now quarks and leptons are made of even smaller particles, little vibrating strings of energy. But strings can also expand. It expands as big as it makes the whole universe, which brings us back to the beginning.


That takes me back... a year or so... except I have never heard of leptons.

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Reply #54 on: December 13, 2007, 10:28:46 am
I dont belive in it...


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Reply #55 on: December 13, 2007, 12:04:42 pm
Wait.. there are people that don't?

I have a serious problem believing the fact that some people don't "Believe" in Evolution. As Friends once put it, its like not believing in Gravity.
Then your friend is stupid to make such a comparison, Gravity has been proven, Evolution has not.

No, an 'alien' is a organism that is capable of basic vital signs of living on a different interstellar planet or mass. Aliens do exist, as microscopic bacteria was found on a rover launch to mars in the 1990's I believe. Don't believe idiotic stereotypes, it only reflects onto your thought and presents itself to everyone else as a sign of a lack of intelligence in the field in question.
That bateria that you speak of, was probably from that incident where a spacecraft a while back was found to have living organisms on board but it was then discovered that they were from Earth and only got onto the ship because people were not careful enough to protect the craft from getting unwanted living organisms from Earth such as bacteria before it left for space.

When you look to chemistry you see that molecules exits of atoms, atoms are electrons revolving around neutrons. There are differend kind of neutrons, as some have more and others have less electrons. When you examine neutrons, they look like little suns. Electrons look like little planets. We are living on one elctron of an atom in a molecule on DNA in a cell in a living person. That person lives on a platen that actually is just an electron...... I just broke my mind. :conf:
lol, wth?

I personally do believe in god and I somewhat belive in Evolution in a sense that living things have "evolved" to make them somewhat different to say thousands of years ago but not to the degree that an Ape become a Human after great evolution.

There is not enough evidence the make me consider the Darwin Theory as definitively true.



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Reply #56 on: December 13, 2007, 12:31:28 pm
Abraham atoms are the result of a big nuclear reaction.
Jubin, when I had chemistry the leptons were not yet discovered, or not accepted as existing. However I did always have the idea that smaller particles could provide the solution to nuclear radiation, if we would learn to control them.

As for apes to human, the forefathers we call apes were not like chimps or gorilla's, they are more like cousins than ancestors.

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Reply #57 on: December 13, 2007, 01:12:02 pm
im confused... :lol:



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Reply #58 on: December 13, 2007, 02:39:45 pm
Abraham atoms are the result of a big nuclear reaction.
And where'd that nuclear reaction come from?

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Reply #59 on: December 13, 2007, 03:58:23 pm
And where'd that nuclear reaction come from?
Hey I am not THAT old that I witnessed it :gand:

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