Double Standards discussion

[Devin]

Admins are biased

Players are biased in that sense then.

[stormeus]

Second Calling cops "pigs" is an insult so if you were warned for that, good.

If this is supposed to be a roleplaying game then we can't start shitting out rainbows and unicorns on every street corner. If the word "pigs" (an insult that is 10000% less harmful than calling someone a "f**k-headed shit nigga on ice") is used in a roleplay context by criminals in reference to police, how is that supposed to be a personal insult?

[Acika]

I like it how HQ is trying to hide the real picture of double standards by posting random posts which are not related to the theme instead of constructive feedback to players.
That's maybe the reason why nothing changes. They are the ones who can make them yet they seem not to care or they just simply want to ignore them.

[jovanca]

Players are biased in that sense then.

guess who has more power to abuse

[Huntsman]

It always seems to be the banned players that state administration are bias and corrupt.

Because the ones that are not don't want to end up being banned.

[Axison]

Second Calling cops "pigs" is an insult

Sorry but what the actual f**k are you talking about?

If its used in a roleplaying context then admins have no right to punish as it isn't their matter.

[Teddy]

Everyone is by nature biased. It's chemistry. It's psychology.

I'm taking a newer initiative with DayZ to include full transparency and this transparency will eventually extend to TeamSpeak. If you ask me, admins should be held to a higher standard and face more immediate and harsh punishments when infringements are made.

[Marcel]

It always seems to be the banned players that state administration are bias and corrupt.

Has it occured to you that some of these bans might have been issued under very questionable circumstances? To me, it shows a great attitude that even these players still want to help the community by bringing up this topic in a constructive way.

But as always, this message will be met with condescending responses from staff. Mark my words.

[Devin]

What is the point of this topic?

[jovanca]

Everyone is by nature biased. It's chemistry. It's psychology.

I'm taking a newer initiative with DayZ to include full transparency and this transparency will eventually extend to TeamSpeak. If you ask me, admins should be held to a higher standard and face more immediate and harsh punishments when infringements are made.

exactly, everyone is biased by nature, but admin team should be made of those players who can separate their personal stuff from their duties, and who will know the difference between their feelings and actual problem.

i dont think that admins should have more harsh punishments, in fact, i think they should spend more time trying to solve the actual problems than just using a command to punish a player.

What is the point of this topic?

so i wanted to continue discussion in order to find solutions to this problem..

trying to improve something, what is the point of this question tho?

[Devin]

What exactly are you wanting to solve/gain from this topic? What is the conclusion that you are wanting to see come to life?

[Kessu]

Second Calling cops "pigs" is an insult so if you were warned for that, good.

What the actual fuck? If an admin on my server punished someone for calling cops "pigs" in roleplay manner, the admin would be warned for being a retard.

That is definiatly not a rulebreak, only butthurt twats would punish for word "pigs" and the admin should definiatly not be an admin.

[Plam_Knight]

exactly, everyone is biased by nature, but admin team should be made of those players who can separate their personal stuff from their duties, and who will know the difference between their feelings and actual problem.

i dont think that admins should have more harsh punishments, in fact, i think they should spend more time trying to solve the actual problems than just using a command to punish a player.

trying to improve something, what is the point of this question tho?

I hope you are aware, what you just said there is close to impossible to happen, unless you never play the game and you never interact with people, which will then beat the point of being an admin.

So pretty much unless you have absolutly no social life and you never step IG, just make calls from outside the game without even reading the forums, there is no way people can be unbias.

Even if you put people that speak about double standard up on the admin spot, they will still act bias. Each decision is based off your comperhanding of the situation, your logic and your feelings, therfore there is no way you can solve a situation without being bias.

[Teddy]

i think they should spend more time trying to solve the actual problems than just using a command to punish a player.

You haven't been an admin before have you. I left over this. Someone would report someone else, and you'd accept the report. Unless the reporter saw red text (punishment) on the screen they'd bitch at you and call you a terrible admin. On the other hand you do issue a punishment, and you have the reported bitching at you, calling you a terrible admin.

[Marcel]

What exactly are you wanting to solve/gain from this topic? What is the conclusion that you are wanting to see come to life?

I'll speak for myself now. What i'd like to see is:

- A revision of the rules to rule out any conflicting rules and carefully rephrase the words to make them easier to follow.
- Put all rules in one place (including rules for SAPD and FBI) so everyone knows those are the leading and most up-to-date rules.
- Transparent guidelines for staff so players can view it.
- Easier way of reporting any rulebreaks by staff. The current way (e-mail [email protected]) is just not transparent enough because many players have the idea that it is either not taken seriously, they don't get enough feedback or no feedback at all.