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At Least 12 Die In Shooting At Magazine's Paris Office

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Reply #30 on: January 11, 2015, 12:17:43 am
No one can deny the fact that they were Muslims..
However, Why should the whole world blame the rest of Muslims..

In Islam, Terrorism is NOT allowed at-all.
It's even written in Quran.
Nevertheless, Some 'group' thinks that it's allowed to attack as long as couple people are showing some 'HATE' towards Islam.
they might do the same thing with us too.. Calling us FAKE Muslims and shit.
Actually, This already happened (ISIS)

We don't consider them as Muslims.. The whole world should know that.
We aren't even allowed to talk with them.
Hady, I understand your position. The problem is that the Muslim world needs to voice this opinion and act on it.
I am aware Islam should be united, reality is that it is not and until the good Muslims like you can admit it and act on it, the world will be angry on all. I know many Muslims and none support these actions. Still we are fed reactions of those claiming to be Muslim and trying to make the actions seem justified. This upsets a lot of people, and I hope that the Muslim world will become able to show they no longer accept people like these to spoil their reputation.

I have seen a lot of good and strong reactions from Muslims against this, also from leading people like the Mayor of Rotterdam who is Muslim and clearly stated he did not want anyone who support the terrorism only one bit to be in his society, and told anyone who does to get out of the Netherlands. Very strong language, but it gained him a lot of respect even from those who usually voice against immigrants.
We need more people like him.

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Reply #31 on: January 11, 2015, 12:18:17 am
I saw a isis flag outside a door downtown (Gustav Adolfs torg) Also called gasa remsan. This is troubling as it would be the same as hanging a swastika outside.

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Reply #32 on: January 11, 2015, 12:19:44 am
Ye I know the religion doesn't allow you to do those kind of things but even that they were muslims they were part of a organization which trained those guys to be like that. To kill people on sight like that did, no matter what religion the victims are.

Those are not Muslims , thats not what islam requests muslims



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Reply #33 on: January 11, 2015, 12:22:03 am

Those are not Muslims , thats not what islam requests muslims
Read my reply to Demir.
It is important that you stop lying to yourself and others about this.

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Reply #34 on: January 11, 2015, 12:22:24 am
I really hate those people who ruin how people think of my religion , islam



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Reply #35 on: January 11, 2015, 12:22:53 am
Go tell this to the muslim guy that shot the muslim cop in the sidewalk...twice...

as gandalf said, some people dont understand the right way of Islam...

Prej pervojes tem i keni nja 2-3 kshilla, mos i boni pidhat shok, e shok ato qe i kini pidha.


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Reply #36 on: January 11, 2015, 12:24:13 am
Read my reply to Demir.
It is important that you stop lying to yourself and others about this.
What I mean , they are muslims but in my religion ,  islam , we cant call them real muslims .



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Reply #37 on: January 11, 2015, 12:24:56 am
Tricky subject in that way its impossible to explain to some people that crimes of few cant make the entire tribe/nation/religion/group of people guilty of the same.

Religion has become a tool in achieving some goals, for many different people.
Sadly i have some knowledge of crimes of Catholic church against people of different religions, in fact did you know that a part of Jews from Kavkaz  the  aggressive poor middle east part, in contrast to peacefull  and rich Jews of Europe initiated the WW2, and  the exodus of many orthodox, jewish, protestant and catholic people who were against the war.

All in all power of belief in a greater force/power that will guide/help you will be manipulated by people for there goals, and that will be hard/impossible to stop.
Also the phrase the means are justified by the goal, if you want a omelet you must break few eggs, etc
Are all excuses used to manipulate people into doing something that they normally might not do.

All who wanna see a realistic example of power of manipulation by a goal/idea can watch the movie The Wave, then you will see just how easy it is to use a idea to  manipulate people.

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Reply #38 on: January 11, 2015, 12:25:17 am
as gandalf said, some people dont understand the right way of Islam...
What u said is right



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Reply #39 on: January 11, 2015, 12:26:34 am
I really hate those people who ruin how people think of my religion , islam
I can only agree with you. But denying who they are will only make other people hate it more.
If you want respect for your religion, accept there are peope who are misguided by false teachers.
Do not make their mistake of supporting violence or denying how some brothers think.

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Reply #40 on: January 11, 2015, 12:29:09 am
I can only agree with you. But denying who they are will only make other people hate it more.
If you want respect for your religion, accept there are peope who are misguided by false teachers.
Do not make their mistake of supporting violence or denying how some brothers think.
You are right



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Reply #41 on: January 11, 2015, 12:36:14 am
But denying who they are will only make other people hate it more.
If you want respect for your religion, accept there are peope who are misguided by false teachers.
Do not make their mistake of supporting violence or denying how some brothers think.
This. This is one of the most accurate post i've seen. I literally couldn't have said it better.


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Reply #42 on: January 11, 2015, 12:36:43 am
I hate the swedish church, im a part of it and i pay a % tax to them every month. My best friend is having a son in 2 two month and i cant be an official godfather because im not baptist but they keep taking my money. Im just saying religion is overated in the year of 2015.

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Reply #43 on: January 11, 2015, 12:51:51 am
I think they attack France, because France heavly support the kurds and the kurdish force Peshmerga. They have sent alot of weapon and other stuff to Peshmerga.

France has also using their own F16 and bomb ISIS. So i guess this is why ISIS got mad and attacked France.

But Long Live France and Love live the kurds <3


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Reply #44 on: January 11, 2015, 12:53:55 am
This !!



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