SA:MP Argonath Roleplay explanations

[Aragorn]

Attention! Due to the abusive roleplay we would like to clear up some positions...

1. All bicycles and bikes (except Freeway) will be removed from server. This had to the fact that 80% "criminals" use this vehicles to escape as it has numerous advantages (non realistic)... I would be more happy to support farmers with their request for tractor to roleplay then give a possibility to so-called "criminal" cheat being chased... To cut this abuse this types of vehicles will be removed... It will be replaced by cars close to the prices of bikes and tractors...

2. As the drugs system is scripted, not allowed to accuse anyone in "imaginary" drugs deals... You have all for the roleplaying the drugs...
If you smoked weed near police officer (local chat visual action) - he has all rights to suspect you without any investigations...
If a police officers used drugs on public (local chat visual action) the ARPD has ALL rights to suspect officers in corruption and take actions against corrupted cops...
If you talk on phone about drug deal (nearest local chat players can see your logs) police force, that hears what you are talking about, can suspect you without investigations...

Wanna make deals - make it private... No ANY /ad advertisements on server... Those players who will continue such "roleplay" will be kicked, repeatedly - banned from server (abusing script commands)

3. If civilians were suspected and think that cops were not correct - inform the ARPD Leaders and go to confess to the Cathedral...

4. Due to the possibilities of Pay-N-Spray, is NOT allowed to change numerous cars being chased... We gave this possibility on MTA server (5 cars in chase) due to the absent repairing system... As SA:MP gives you a possibility on repairing a car - use this possibility... Those who will abuse numerous cars being chased - will be punished by administration...

5. "Wanted" who try to avoid arrest by jumping into the water and sitting there, PMing other player "bring me a boat" - will be kicked from server, constant abuse the advantage (cannot shoot when swim) - banned from server...

6. Any wrong parked car (especially near LSPD) can be destroyed by police force, if driver ignored the command to leave the area... Pershing Square is not a road - it is a Square... Came to LSPD - park car at the parking slot...

7. Sniper shooting people will be punished... Does not matter criminal or not... You can use sniper rifles for cops operations or hitman contract... No any getting sniper rifle, flying to Pershing Square and shooting people... Admins now can see which ID is killing players with sniper rifle...

8. Playing corrupt cop? Nice... But remember, that does not mean you can swear and flame criminals on public... Wanna tell him that you do not give a fuck - find the right place for it, avoid the police forces, otherwise, police has all rights to remove your badge through the Courts... Attacking criminals with weapons with excuse "I am corrupt cop" is also not allowed... Only in the cases when both sides really roleplaying and accept some actions from other side... The same goes to "corrupt slang"...

9. Not allowed being wanted hide in your bizz locking it from cops and increase health... This goes especially to the bar owners, who lock their bizz being chased, drink vodka to increase health and waiting when "being drunk" will go off, then get out and continue escaping...

10. Ramming cops, attack cops for being wanted is NOT allowed...

11. Civilians who will join the police chase and will start to beep to criminal "hop in I will help you" can be kicked from server for non roleplay... Wanna help - wait when criminal will call you on phone and will ask for help and meeting place...

12. Civilians who will be found by police forces on weed fields and Heroin ship can be suspected at once... Wanna grow a weed - do it without cops... Civilians who will come to weed field during police raid (cops raid the weed field) can be suspected at once, continuously - kicked from server... Get the real life into game - no any clown comes to weed field to cops "Hey cops what is going on"...

13. Medics that got cases with the drug abusers - should heal the drug user to increase his health... The drug abuse removes the player's health, so just "roleplaying a medic" will NOT help him...))) Once again: if a player is addicted to drugs - he loses health REALLY so medics should heal him also REALLY... Not an imaginary healing...

[svarting]

 :poke: so boring without bikes :o

[Aragorn]

I understand... But checking out the roleplay possibility of using bikes and abusing bikes in escapes, I took decision to remove it from server... As bikes are used ONLY for abusing the advantage in chase...

[Petey]

Good work Ron, maybe now people will start to RP now..

:poke: so boring without bikes :o

ok lets see you catch a suspect on a bike when they dont fall off when you do a road block, they can really do anything with out falling off...

[Fatboy_Rob]

13. Medics that got cases with the drug abusers - should heal the drug user to increase his health... The drug abuse removes the player's health, so just "roleplaying a medic" will NOT help him...))) Once again: if a player is addicted to drugs - he loses health REALLY so medics should heal him also REALLY... Not an imaginary healing...

Ok, now i know that was aimed at me.
I'm not gonna sit back and just dust it off, i want you to hear my side of it.

Ok First off, i would have not even came to you if you were anyone else, as you said in OOC "Medic Needed Now!" - that left me with nothing, no description of anything, i had to fucking guess that it was Speaker on the ground, i thought you guys were just asking me to do something for him, like he fell, and he has a fractured leg.
But no, all you said was "Medic Needed Now!" and i came, then you started getting pissed at me because of your fault, your lack of the description.
And it was not my damn fault that i wasn't aware of what abuse of heroin did to your Health, i didn't know it kicks you out of the car when your addicted, that pissed me off, and you bickering at me the whole time.
You were basically yelling at me "do the motherfucking Trigonometry Problem" and i don't know one thing about trigonometry.
In that case, Excuse the fuck out of me for not using drugs.

Now, i have a couple other things to say.
If /call 911 > Paramedic worked, wouldn't you think that would have helped the situation 400x better?
Since it didn't, id advise you to take a small peek at my topic regarding all things with medic + Very good additions Medic Additions + Bug Fixes - if those were fixed, i could have been saving his life.

And if you could have calmed down for a second, you could have explained to me what was happening.
What did you do? stand and watch as i blindlessly try and treat a patient that i had no fucking idea what was wrong with him what so ever, and you know that.
Then you had Grovyle Running into circles doing nothing cop worthy....
i said "/l ok, help me lift him into the ambulance" - what did you do? - stand there, yelling at me.

And still i wasn't aware of the drug addiction effect that speaker had cause i do not play with drugs, and i heard you guys mention something about Drugs and him about to die ( Overdose on a drug ), so i was rushing him to a hospital, then he jumps out, then i couldn't stand anymore of the shit that was being thrown at me cause of everyone Else's fault, so i drove off, left the server.


And yes, just because you do not even look into the medical RP field, Paramedics to not just sit there and /heal ID all day, they check his vitals, his eye's to see if their dilated(to see if he OD'd or is high).
that is the RP i threw in, i tried it, but you guys were freaking yelling at me in OOC about some drug shit i wasn't aware of, then i was confused as hell before i got there.

Please dude, read that topic about the bugs, then come back to me, because my RPing is set in a high place and i KNOW i am a fantastic Roleplayer and i KNOW i am a great Paramedic Roleplayer, and i would rather not have my skills shit on, by someone Else's faults.

[Dave]

Does this mean, if one of my clan members i wanted, and i go and help them out, by just staying by incase they call me, is not allowed anymore?

[Indigo]

Well, being a cop it will be much easier to RP

Does this mean, if one of my clan members i wanted, and i go and help them out, by just staying by incase they call me, is not allowed anymore?

I think this is an answere, Dave..

11. Wanna help - wait when criminal will call you on phone and will ask for help and meeting place...

10. Ramming cops, attack cops for being wanted is NOT allowed...

Does it mean that suspected will only run by feet/car/plain/boat without fighting back?


Btw, Aragorn, I think at least the basics of these rules should be added to Argonath's homepage, also the rules in homepage needs to be updated...
Reminder: The bottom on the SAMP map isn't finished yet..

Thank you.

[Aragorn]

That are not rules as it is... That are explanations in which cases admins can kick warn and even ban players...
That is also a trying to explain that the main what supposes is a roleplay together all, and annoying abuse "cos it is fun for me" should be dropped... From what I see players do not even understand they are playing together with other alive players...

Gang members CAN help their friends, but... First of all they have to have the SAME tags at least so for cops it will not be like "WTF?!" or "Who the fuck is this?"... Second - have troubles - get rid of cops... Ramming cops or starting shooting cops not being wanted - for cops is the same deathmatch - this you should understand...

The same goes to players that have a tradition to run from cops the stop (even making hands up) start blah blah I got wanted for nothing telling "I am innocent" and then continue running or jumping in the first car that arrives "hey dude need a help!"... You SHOULD respect players who play as cops... Cos otherwise why then cops have a restricted scripted feature - warning when killing a surrendered person or person who IS not wanted... And this warnings are automatic, no admin needs...

Because in the case allowing "friends" to help chased "friends" we should also allow cops shoot and kill everyone who involves in chase without being suspected... Not to waste time on suspection and asking surrender - yeah there are such "roleplayers" also, who pick up criminal, got bullets in their car and then start scream about cops abusing, especially when got killed in the fighting between criminal and cops...

You think that rules are made special to make cops work easier??? wRONG...
This I cleared up as I saw the unfair difference in rules between cops and criminals: from cops I demand to play by procedure that takes time of cops and keeps them in the boards of scripts, and no any fucking rule and restriction for criminals...
So do not think that is cos to make cops work easier...

It should be a fair playing... And Fair playing is: when Aragorn was wanted and his car lost fuel he required a towtruck, the first who came was officer Clooak who arrested mr.Aragorn right near his car without fuel, gave orders to towtrucker to follow him and bring the car of mr.Aragorn to the PD and Delivered the criminal Aragorn to the cells...
THIS is fair roleplay...
Posted on: December 19, 2007, 01:44:29 AM

Does it mean that suspected will only run by feet/car/plain/boat without fighting back?

Players should understand that while they are not wanted - attack on cops is a deathmatch - attack without a reason, where reason is - wanted level... Otherwise I should remove restriction for cops to shoot only wanted players and start kill everyone whom they suppose to be dangerous for society like syndrome of Judge Dredd: saw, verdict, kill...

If you are wanted - you have all rights to fight back... Actually cops are waiting for it...

[el_boricua56]

I really like all this ideas, speacially the remove of the bicycles and bike's. I hope this will help to improve the role play in the server.

[Duneseek]

Agreed Trujilo,Although i do not recall when im on ever seeing a suspect flee on bikes(Thank god)

Best Regards,
Duneseek
 :ps: Is it just me?Or in this past week,ALOT of problems are occuring and solved IMO and Atm?

[Fatboy_Rob]

Its just you dune..
IMO, i see nothing getting solved, only more problems this last week...

[Vice]

1. All bicycles and bikes (except Freeway) will be removed from server. This had to the fact that 80% "criminals" use this vehicles to escape as it has numerous advantages (non realistic)... I would be more happy to support farmers with their request for tractor to roleplay then give a possibility to so-called "criminal" cheat being chased... To cut this abuse this types of vehicles will be removed... It will be replaced by cars close to the prices of bikes and tractors...

I dont like this point at all. Btw, i guess its scriptable to limit the vehicle using for criminals. Like the civils cant use
the police vehicles, maybe its scriptable to criminals cant use bikes or other type of vehicles.

[tiderman]

1. All bicycles and bikes (except Freeway) will be removed from server

What about Wayfarer?.

[Jnn]

I agree with you Hank, makes me cry when I think that I lose my beautiful PCJ-600 because of bikerunners...

I escaped once with my bike though.

[Gandalf]

1. All bicycles and bikes (except Freeway) will be removed from server. This had to the fact that 80% "criminals" use this vehicles to escape as it has numerous advantages (non realistic)... I would be more happy to support farmers with their request for tractor to roleplay then give a possibility to so-called "criminal" cheat being chased... To cut this abuse this types of vehicles will be removed... It will be replaced by cars close to the prices of bikes and tractors...

I dont like this point at all. Btw, i guess its scriptable to limit the vehicle using for criminals. Like the civils cant use
the police vehicles, maybe its scriptable to criminals cant use bikes or other type of vehicles.

ssssshhhhhh but it does not work with bikes.