Stuff I'd like to point out. Please read.

[Kostas]

Good to hear that. Still when I am entering the server and 50% of the talk is about how to kidnap me it seems not a lot has changed...

Start by joining more than once a year then... Yeah, guess the players were wrong for being happy for your presence on the server that day after all...

[Cyril]

Start by joining more than once a year then... Yeah, guess the players were wrong for being happy for your presence on the server that day after all...

Who tells you he doesn't join more than once a year?
It's not because you don't see a player called "Gandalf" in the player list that he is not around.

[Gandalf]

Start by joining more than once a year then... Yeah, guess the players were wrong for being happy for your presence on the server that day after all...

The reason I do not join under Gandalf is that my possibilities to actually play are way too limited on that account. I'd rather be less conspicuous.

[Acika]

It's such a pity to see that no real leader has left on the server.

[Gandalf]

It's such a pity to see that no real leader has left on the server.

Is that an application? 

[Cyril]

Is that an application? 

I doubt banned people can apply for such position!

[TheGreasyChopper]

The reason I do not join under Gandalf is that my possibilities to actually play are way too limited on that account. I'd rather be less conspicuous.

Is that why I keep getting PMed and blackmailed to give money so I'm not "revealed". Yes, some guys think I am you UC 

As to stay on topic, Gandalf's attitude may be a little bit out of some's comfort zone. But put yourself in his position, running this community for all those years. We need to learn to babysit ourselvs and not rely on his interaction all the time. He's giving alot, so don't be surprised if he wants to be more direct. He should be, because people always tend to bend his words in their own liking.

[Acika]

Is that an application? 

Depends on what you think. Application for a community leader or for a group leader

[Devin]

Fuck I dropped my popcorn. 

[Gandalf]

Is that why I keep getting PMed and blackmailed to give money so I'm not "revealed". Yes, some guys think I am you UC 

As to stay on topic, Gandalf's attitude may be a little bit out of some's comfort zone. But put yourself in his position, running this community for all those years. We need to learn to babysit ourselvs and not rely on his interaction all the time. He's giving alot, so don't be surprised if he wants to be more direct. He should be, because people always tend to bend his words in their own liking.

Over the years I have changed a bit. That has nothing to do with becoming a grumpy old man, but with my role changing to a more solitary one. At the same time being direct is something that has gotten lost in society, which I personally find a pity.

If people find me disrespectful, they should ask themselves why. I have respect for those who are still active, even if they have had better and worse times. But I do not respect those who have zero activity and try to tell us how we should run the server.

[Kostas]

The reason I do not join under Gandalf is that my possibilities to actually play are way too limited on that account. I'd rather be less conspicuous.

Fair point but just like you said... Dont expect people to act normal arround your Gandalf account...

[Tiny]

I do not respect those who have zero activity and try to tell us how we should run the server.

This.

Because it's too easy to talk about solutions when the problem is not yours.

[Johan_S]

The "sensibility" comes only in game, experience is gained only in game, ideology will be built only in game.

Every player will improve in game it's just mater of time and examples which will be given by veterans or leaders.

Best Regards 

[Kostas]

This.

Because it's too easy to talk about solutions when the problem is not yours.

That's not right actually, just because someone is not currently active at a certain server, it does not mean that he has no connection with a problem, what ever the reasons of his inactivity are. I have got inactive in the past, many times for several reasons. How much I care about Argonath has not changed at all durring inactive times the past few years though...

[Astaroth]

I'm really sorry this thread has turned into one big shitstorm of people arguing.
I fully understand anyone disagreeing with me, and that's all I'll say about it.

As for the ones TRYING to make a change?
I'm really looking for people to join along and make this one big example for everyone.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=110125.0

EDIT:
And one thing I quite can't understand. Why the fuck are you all arguing with Gandalf on this one?
It's me who created the topic, and it's me being with the rude words at first.
But you guys just need to get out of the cage.
Why are you blaming the staff for the players actions? It's not like we control everyone.
It's pointless arguing if you bring no change, really.
And what bothers me now is - the people who act all "good guy" here and "agree" with me, still keep fucking around.
Some do, some don't understand how it is for an admin to be online for 5 hours, trying to keep the players calm and in good shape and motivated and babysit everyone for rulebreaking.
I've never been a saint, Gandalf knows that for himself. I was a fucking asshole towards this community.
But well, time passes, people change.
There was a time where once instead of breaking the rules, I decided to help someone. Trust me, that felt much better. And that lead to me sticking with people who did that for a long time. Administrators, old players who actually appreciate this community and so on. The atmosphere we had during our roleplays were simply amazing.

But, to get back to the point:

For those who find themselves in my words(the bad part), you've never given a single fuck to contribute to the community in any way possible. That's exactly what you bitch about. You bitch about how you set a bad example for everyone, how everyone takes example from you and does the same shit YOU do and make this server not likeable as it used to be.
Look guys, I created this thing for a reason, we all want a change to better, no?
So let's make one and quit bitching.