SA:MP Moderator Applications 2015 - CLOSED

[Cyril]

 

Ok, there is some interesting applications but with more time they could be even better.

[[Rstar]Peter]

Well I have had the same feeling, but look at this:

 

Posting your application in first hours doesn't mean that you "rushed", but it's different story if you just posted without noticing the questions and their difference, some questions looked like each other in first look, but they were completely different question (situation) if you look deeply into them.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

If you have 3 weeks to do it, it means you could have used this time to think about it and about all the different scenarios possible.
That's what we expect at least, some people just threw one sentence at every questions, it clearly show a lack of effort.
We want people to show us their best and to stand out of the crowd and make us think "This guy got potential!"

Monsieur,

Some clearly do have potential!

Might be playing devils advocate here but If the application process is meant to help Managers skip the job of training the mods then that's no good =O.

Actual on the job work and training could prove to be far superior than what is written in their application.
People learn from their mistakes and if those mistakes are allowed to happen then they'll get better - so long as there is a specific person to lead them (rather than just going alone or "we've accepted you now, and you should be able to do it yourself").

I'm not saying I know how SAMP HQ trains its mods, but I was an Admin Leader in ParUni and lead and trained several managers, moderators, admins there, some of which surpassed me when I went inactive from ParUni!

A person with sweet words could be a complete honey trap when it comes down to the actual job and despite writing a novel would really and truly know zilch, and you can not usually get an answer to everything from a book!

Is there for example a dedicated Manager or Managers who train Moderators? (Is there a HR Department of sorts ?).

The behaviour of some and the mindsets of some may be reserved about what they post, simply because they do not know if what they say is what is needed. Some will not be willing to say what they want because they may feel it would badly effect them, this may be silly superstition or it may be the case!!

 Give a person  a closed question and he will usually answer it with what you're looking for.
Give a person an open question and he will answer it, but the answer may not be what the questioner is looking for.

The above would be let's say... £3500 worth of Management education (2/3 Units/Modules of Business Management) .

It may not be the case that simply because someone posted an application on day one, that he didn't give a fuck / rushed it.

Kind regards,
Monte.

[Cyril]

Well, the more time you take to think about it before writting, the more situations you will cover and the better it will be.
So you add more quality in your application. That's my view on it, I'm speaking from a personal experience, that's all. Not all HQ may share the same idea
I remember when Managers applications opened, it was with few questions (obviously harder as it was meant for a higher position) and I thought about it for a week at least before starting reading, and it took me around 5 word pages.
Same as Devin and here we are.

Of course you don't have to write 5 pages but please give us something to read that make us excited!

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Well, the more time you take to think about it before writting, the more situations you will cover and the better it will be.
So you add more quality in your application. That's my view on it, I'm speaking from a personal experience, that's all. Not all HQ may share the same idea
I remember when Managers applications opened, it was with few questions (obviously harder as it was meant for a higher position) and I thought about it for a week at least before starting reading, and it took me around 5 word pages.
Same as Devin and here we are.

Of course you don't have to write 5 pages but please give us something to read that make us excited!

So what, can I re-post my application then? I will give you something to read =).
Just make sure you have enough coffee beans when you do receive it! 

[Cyril]

Monsieur,

Some clearly do have potential!

Might be playing devils advocate here but If the application process is meant to help Managers skip the job of training the mods then that's no good =O.

Actual on the job work and training could prove to be far superior than what is written in their application.
People learn from their mistakes and if those mistakes are allowed to happen then they'll get better - so long as there is a specific person to lead them (rather than just going alone or "we've accepted you now, and you should be able to do it yourself").

I'm not saying I know how SAMP HQ trains its mods, but I was an Admin Leader in ParUni and lead and trained several managers, moderators, admins there, some of which surpassed me when I went inactive from ParUni!

A person with sweet words could be a complete honey trap when it comes down to the actual job and despite writing a novel would really and truly know zilch, and you can not usually get an answer to everything from a book!

Is there for example a dedicated Manager or Managers who train Moderators? (Is there a HR Department of sorts ?).

The behaviour of some and the mindsets of some may be reserved about what they post, simply because they do not know if what they say is what is needed. Some will not be willing to say what they want because they may feel it would badly effect them, this may be silly superstition or it may be the case!!

 Give a person  a closed question and he will usually answer it with what you're looking for.
Give a person an open question and he will answer it, but the answer may not be what the questioner is looking for.

The above would be let's say... £3500 worth of Management education (2/3 Units/Modules of Business Management) .

It may not be the case that simply because someone posted an application on day one, that he didn't give a f**k / rushed it.

Kind regards,
Monte.

Once accepted, moderators are given an introduction, however their training happens everyday as everyday they learn new stuff on the field.
Even admins keep learning stuff today after years of experiences.
All our questions are opened. There is not a single questions that can be answered with only "Yes or No".

[Cyril]

So what, can I re-post my application then? I will give you something to read =).
Just make sure you have enough coffee beans when you do receive it! 

You already submitted an application so no :p

[[Rstar]Peter]

Well, the more time you take to think about it before writting, the more situations you will cover and the better it will be.
So you add more quality in your application. That's my view on it, I'm speaking from a personal experience, that's all. Not all HQ may share the same idea
I remember when Managers applications opened, it was with few questions (obviously harder as it was meant for a higher position) and I thought about it for a week at least before starting reading, and it took me around 5 word pages.
Same as Devin and here we are.

Of course you don't have to write 5 pages but please give us something to read that make us excited!

Ye I agree. the more time you spend on your application, the more chance you will get.
But we cant say all those applications which are posted in first few hours/days are from "rushers aka power hungry guys" only, and you can't find good applications from them.
It was kinda new way of SAMP moderator applications tho'

[Cyril]

Ye I agree. the more time you spend on your application, the more chance you will get.
But we cant say all those applications which are posted in first few hours/days are from "rushers aka power hungry guys" only, and you can't find good applications from them.
It was kinda new way of SAMP moderator applications tho'

Yes it's a new way because there is no point to have 50 applications wtih all the same answer: "I want to help and protect the server".
It's very boring and doesn't really give us an insight on how you think and stuff

[Marcel]

Yes it's a new way because there is no point to have 50 applications wtih all the same answer: "I want to help and protect the server".
It's very boring and doesn't really give us an insight on how you think and stuff

I might not always agree with HQ, but this application process is well thought out and will give you good insights in the applicants.

[[Rstar]Peter]

Yes it's a new way because there is no point to have 50 applications wtih all the same answer: "I want to help and protect the server".
It's very boring and doesn't really give us an insight on how you think and stuff

When I opened that link I couldn't expect these questions, I just surprised and felt like "omigad these questions are made by a psychologist !"

[beLTa]

When the applications were opened before this, I said the same I'm going to say now. It doesn't matter you are admin or not, to help a player, being admin is not important, not at all.

I'm sure everyone answered/ended their questions by saying that I want to help players, Even I did. But, Remember, If you're going to get accepted, you're going to get a chance to check out rulebreakers, not to get a bigger chance for helping new players because Everyone have the right to help newcomers.

So, Don't take tension. If you'll get accepted, It's good for you. But If you'll not, It'll not be bad for you because no one will stop you helping newcomers, So..

EDIT: For example, me. I've applied almost ten times for this apportunity but never got accepted. But, you'll always find/see me helping newcomers IG. I never refuses to do it, because It's my passion. Admin duty is not to get rights to ban someone. It's a big deal.

[Thomas R]

I'm sure everyone answered/ended their questions by saying that I want to help players, Even I did. But, Remember, If you're going to get accepted, you're going to get a chance to check out rulebreakers, not to get a bigger chance for helping new players because Everyone have the RIGHT to help newcomers.

it's more about the situations you are coming in, you have to take difficult conclusions, being an admin doesn't mean you only have to help new players.

[beLTa]

it's more about the situations you are coming in, you have to take difficult conclusions

Exactly.

being an admin doesn't mean you only have to help new players.

As I said,

Admin duty is not to get rights to ban someone. It's a big deal.

You're correct. Being admin is to show the way to newcomers, Right way and wrong way. If they choose the right one, they can stay and If they choose the wrong one, They have to leave.

If you're not an admin, you should teach him from 'A' to 'Z'. All important commands, about jobs, about rules of cource etc.

[Mr. Goobii]

I won't apply but for whoever finds it interesting; good luck!