ARPD complaints

[Gandalf]

ARPD will be requested to start a citizens complaint section. Before this, use this topic to complain about cops abuse, all complaints will be handled by the ARPD or presidents office.

Report form:

Date:
Time (server time):
Cop(s) involved:
Suspected for:
Did you surrender :
Jailed/Killed:
Reason why you feel this is abuse:


Note: anyone complaining about cops abuse is required to fill in a report. Otherwise do not complain.

[LillMumin]

Date:20/12 2007
Time (server time): 20:37
Cop(s) involved:[TCL]Rex, Stuart Barnes
Suspected for:hitting a cop with flowes (i only gave them some)
Reason why you feel this is abuse: First, i was abused by stuart, i just gave his some flowers i did /me gives stuart some flowers then said here have some flowers.. BAM!!! Suspected.. no one did anything.. we were gonna take a screenie of all the players online and after we took the picture Rex is running towards me and just blastes me with Tec9, without saying anything! first, no one ever asked me to surrender, 2 is it nessesary to run towards a guy with tec9s and killes him unarmed not doing anything??:S Total abuse for me!


Another thing is this picture, im very very troubled with it.. ARPD Giving away drugs and taking drugs on duty!!! :alert" :alert" :alert" :alert"


http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samp004ud7.png

[Fatboy_Rob]

Your support is horrible....
and that screenshot only shows some ARPD Smoking weed....


Hayden Forever

[chris.]

Date: December 21st 2007
Time (server time): Very sorry. unsure.
Cop(s) involved: Wayne, and Josh I believe.
Suspected for: wasn't suspected.
Did you surrender : yes
Jailed/Killed: neither
Reason why you feel this is abuse: Read my story below

Hello, I hate to be a old hag of a Grandma. but the past two days on the server I have been raided by Wayne and his team from ARPD. the first day didnt bother me so much except that it was a random raid. and when I asked why they where they doing this. they failed to give a reason, no report of criminal activity. nothing just. a " Freeze! out of the car! and on the wall!!" we settled it the first day. but then again the next day the same thing happened at my Party at Misty's. which pretty much ruined it. me jenn andy and josh where outside. tying to get more people inside when sure enough Wayne and the team come again with no reason to be shoving us around the street like cattle and then searching us, all my drugs where taken away. but before I gave the last one to Wayne, I asked him to stay so we can discuss some matters, such as why he keeps doing this. I gave the last one and he either. teleported ( idk if he has the admin rights ) or crashed. I trying talking to him, but he didnt care. almost as if he gets a team together, and goes through the id's for who has drugs.
I am asking that ARPD sets up rules so that they cant just raid any populated group of people under no accusations.
what if it was a wedding! :O

Thank you for your time.

[Luca_Scalise]

Date:20/12 2007
Time (server time): 20:37
Cop(s) involved:[TCL]Rex, Stuart Barnes
Suspected for:hitting a cop with flowes (i only gave them some)
Reason why you feel this is abuse: First, i was abused by stuart, i just gave his some flowers i did /me gives stuart some flowers then said here have some flowers.. BAM!!! Suspected.. no one did anything.. we were gonna take a screenie of all the players online and after we took the picture Rex is running towards me and just blastes me with Tec9, without saying anything! first, no one ever asked me to surrender, 2 is it nessesary to run towards a guy with tec9s and killes him unarmed not doing anything??:S Total abuse for me!


Another thing is this picture, im very very troubled with it.. ARPD Giving away drugs and taking drugs on duty!!! :alert" :alert" :alert" :alert"


http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samp004ud7.png

Thanks to Gandalf for this idea, and to LillMumin for the complaints. I can assure you i will take action on the LSPD Officer.

[Knoothead]

Date:Today
Time (server time):24.00
Cop(s) involved:Can't remember, some Rockstart atleast
Suspected for:Aiding suspect
Did you surrender :They didnt ask.
Jailed/Killed: Murdered
Reason why you feel this is abuse:

ARPD should be Pro RP cops right?

Why did they then, suspect for ramming, then drivebying with tec9 until the victims car explodes.
Then they suspect the passenger that just sat in the car for Aiding a Suspect.
Then they killed the passenger without asking surrender, because he did selfdefence against a cop that smacked him in the face.
The passenger lost 500$, and they killed the driver that had surrendered. Driver lost 500$ too, ( i think )

They didnt tell us to stop or pullover, they had sirens on, but how should the passenger and the driver know that they wanted them to stop and pullover, reading the "You are suspected (reason) by Officer (Name) is Metagaming

[VMNT]

Then they killed the passenger without asking surrender, because he did selfdefence against a cop that smacked him in the face.

Sorry if I am not supposed to post in here unless it's a complaint, but..


Earlier today, I hit a suspect with a nite-stick who was not complying, he then started to hit me repeatedly, so... I shot him, then claimed he was using self defence...

[chris.]

Date: January 1st
Time : 5:45 Eastern.
Cop(s) involved: Anto, Pancher, and many none ARPD cops. including Grovyle
Suspected for: Not suspected
Did you surrender : wasn't asked/ doesn't count for this situation
Jailed/Killed: doesn't apply
Reason why you feel this is abuse: unprofessional verbal abuse.

Today Anto and another man I believe was Pancher and MANY other none ARPD cop cadets came to Daniels house ( mad dogs mansion) I asked them for a search warrant since they where trespassing.( they Rped correctly by showing one ) I had asked Anto under what accusations are you raiding the Mansion. and he said in these exact words " under the circumstances of Kiss my ass"
this is Highly unprofessional and should be acknowledged. I would like to know why I am being shoved around like a turd on Private property, but I still don't know why. Hopefully Anto will serve the necessary punishment for acting out of line.

-Christ_Corleone.

[Anto]

Date: January 1st
Time : 5:45 Eastern.
Cop(s) involved: Anto, Pancher, and many none ARPD cops. including Grovyle
Suspected for: Not suspected
Did you surrender : wasn't asked/ doesn't count for this situation
Jailed/Killed: doesn't apply
Reason why you feel this is abuse: unprofessional verbal abuse.

Today Anto and another man I believe was Pancher and MANY other none ARPD cop cadets came to Daniels house ( mad dogs mansion) I asked them for a search warrant since they where trespassing.( they Rped correctly by showing one ) I had asked Anto under what accusations are you raiding the Mansion. and he said in these exact words " under the circumstances of Kiss my ass"
this is Highly unprofessional and should be acknowledged. I would like to know why I am being shoved around like a turd on Private property, but I still don't know why. Hopefully Anto will serve the necessary punishment for acting out of line.

-Christ_Corleone.

Ok, me and pancher organised a group of ARPD cadets together to train them, we stated that we would go to the corleone mansion and check it out, we went there, showed the warrent, went in searched like rpers, came out and tryed to leave, then your members josh and drib tryed to attack us while we were leaving , i gave them at least 5 chances before i sued them, then we had to chase you guys, that is what happened.

[Neave]

I love how you guys complain about the ARPD, yet you guys still kick people off the job of the leader of the ARPD before giving them a chance. beggers cant be choosers  

[Luca_Scalise]

I don't think the problem is in the ARPD, but in the criminals. They think the police is still a disorganized, irrelevant, inefficient, useless, weak.. organisation. But despite this, the ARPD is efficient, with some issues like everything else sure.. but we reached many and important objectives in these months since the release of the new script; the DM is decreased to the lowest levels, the gangs phenomenon is almost disappeared except for some few old criminal groups, the annoying atmosphere of "Insurgency" with bombs and Hydra raids has been removed.. and the policemen now work togheter, they enjoy their work and they are getting trained to fight the organized crime. Sometimes a good result means hard methods.. but the hard methods are not Lagers or public executions, no.. simply more rudness for those who wont collaborate with the police, and we know who wont.. mafia members, gang members, kidnappers, murderers, robbers.. we threat the people just like they threat us. If we stop a car to check the license and the driver says "Hello how can i help you?" we politely answer "Hello, can you show me your license please?" ... but if he says "What the f*ck do you want pig" we "politely" answer "Get the f*ck out of the car idiot"  :roll: and looks like this tactic is working well.

[chris.]

Ok, me and pancher organised a group of ARPD cadets together to train them, we stated that we would go to the corleone mansion and check it out, we went there, showed the warrent, went in searched like rpers, came out and tryed to leave, then your members josh and drib tryed to attack us while we were leaving , i gave them at least 5 chances before i sued them, then we had to chase you guys, that is what happened.

If they attacked you Suspecting them is more than understandable. but you must understand some of the cadets where crossing the line shoving us around( names I can not recall ) . but still try to be more Professional towards people after all I wasn't attacking. as for them attacking I will speak with them Personally.
Posted on: January 02, 2008, 01:57:19 AM

I don't think the problem is in the ARPD, but in the criminals. They think the police is still a disorganized, irrelevant, inefficient, useless, weak.. organisation. But despite this, the ARPD is efficient, with some issues like everything else sure.. but we reached many and important objectives in these months since the release of the new script; the DM is decreased to the lowest levels, the gangs phenomenon is almost disappeared except for some few old criminal groups, the annoying atmosphere of "Insurgency" with bombs and Hydra raids has been removed.. and the policemen now work togheter, they enjoy their work and they are getting trained to fight the organized crime. Sometimes a good result means hard methods.. but the hard methods are not Lagers or public executions, no.. simply more rudness for those who wont collaborate with the police, and we know who wont.. mafia members, gang members, kidnappers, murderers, robbers.. we threat the people just like they threat us. If we stop a car to check the license and the driver says "Hello how can i help you?" we politely answer "Hello, can you show me your license please?" ... but if he says "What the f*ck do you want pig" we "politely" answer "Get the f*ck out of the car idiot"  :roll: and looks like this tactic is working well.

Very understandable. but I feel I was collaborating very well.( i know others where not and I will deal with them ) I ask like the same situation with wayne that each time I am being ordered to do something that I am told why. whether it be I was snitched by someone that I was selling drugs or what ever it might be. and NOT! because they use TAB and see _Corleone or _Solonik or any group for that matter. in real life people are innocent until proven Guilty, and I ask that when I am raided or shoved around that I am told WHY. and lol Luca, im not one of those people who say "what the fuck you want you ARPD pig" lol thats just childish.

[LillMumin]

I love how you guys complain about the ARPD, yet you guys still kick people off the job of the leader of the ARPD before giving them a chance. beggers cant be choosers 

Well, if ppl is in ARPD they shouldnt do any crime or abuse, for like example Stuart.. thats non accepted, and this complain topic is great! becouse ARPD should be hte best cops in Argonath! not just some regular Dmers..

[Pandalink]

I don't think the problem is in the ARPD, but in the criminals. They think the police is still a disorganized, irrelevant, inefficient, useless, weak.. organisation. But despite this, the ARPD is efficient, with some issues like everything else sure.. but we reached many and important objectives in these months since the release of the new script; the DM is decreased to the lowest levels, the gangs phenomenon is almost disappeared except for some few old criminal groups, the annoying atmosphere of "Insurgency" with bombs and Hydra raids has been removed.. and the policemen now work togheter, they enjoy their work and they are getting trained to fight the organized crime.

Sorry to pick apart your post Luca, but this is unfortunately how I would say that:
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"I don't think the problem is the ARPD, but in the criminals. The criminals don't understand that the ARPD act like a disorganized, irrelevant, inefficient, useless, weak organisation towards them to lure them into a false sense of security, whereas the ARPD actually do act smart behind the scenes. But despite this lapse of understanding, the ARPD is still efficient at killing all criminals (and more ), and has reached some major goals recently. The DM is decreased to its lowest level, meaning that Regulars get picked on by Cops and Admins alike! The chance to Roleplay as a Gang has almost disapeared, as the ARPD fights to become the only Gang left, after all, who wants a Mafia to be able to throw somebody off of a bridge in a cool and slick movie-like scene, when you can make them pull over and show them your licence, 6 times in 2 minutes? 
Also, the non-existent atmosphere of Insurgency is gone, as now there can be no Hydra battles for Army Roleplay (and of course, no Army skin) and instead only the 'harmless' Nevadas can crash into the LSPD!
And lets not forget to mention the removal of the Rustlers, single-handedly killing off a successful Roleplay group in one swipe!
Basically, ARPD enjoy their work and are getting trained to fight off all of the other organised gangs so that they can rule the streets of Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturas!"
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I don't know why ARPD have gone to such lengths to annihilate all Mafia and Gang Roleplay, but without Gang roleplay and Mafia action, there is not much great about Argonath for me. But then again, the ARPD gang will fill the void of those who rule the Streets.

All I can say is.. see you in Angel Pine. A place where Gangs are still allowed to, you know, Roleplay. Unless of course DPD will suffer the same fate as the other Departments.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Yea panda, it sucks that all the cool stuff is gone
like hydra's & rustlers & cool stuff.

Yea, Mafia & Gangster RP was good, but now it cease's to exist....
And if DPD ever gets like that, im gone from ARPD...