Cop-cadets DMing and abusing!

[Petey]

and by the time that happens the player is gone, btw how are people going to learn how to be a cop if they cant do anything?

[Aragorn]

Exactly... The best cops were trained not in schools but on the streets... ))

[Petey]

Exactly... The best cops were trained not in schools but on the streets... ))

like when i was trained by you ron and jubin back in the day

[Kitsune]

but you can say it in radio and ask real officers to come and check this or even suspect...

Then officer goes and kills suspect and cadet stays away and gets no money? No one will want to be cadet. Besides, there is virtually never enough officers, several times i see around 5-8 cadets on server and only 1 or 0 officers...What is a cadet going to do the? Call God? God has better things to do then slay petty criminals...

And then armed suspects? Cadets hiding behind patrol car radioing for an armed officer, suspects talk, "Hey, it's just cadets, they are unarmed, just a batton, lets get them!" Cadets then run away from suspects...what kind of image is this? Does this sound realistic?

Also, what kind of training you get here? Learn to rp, radio commands, teamwork...Then you get promoted to officer and get pwnt because you were never trained in combat, myb only with instructing officer, but no "real" training...fighting instructing officer, your not going to get all the fighting skills you need... this is not the way to go...

[Jaaskaa]

Actualy, they are cadet/free cop .... When people come and do that, and that they are new on the server, it's usualy for money, so I must agree it can lead to some dming and abusing...

Now, the fact of removing their weapons ... As mentionned in the post just above, it's a bad idea because of all of those criminals who carry weapons.

So then, how to overcome the problem ? Limiting their firepower ? Removing their /su command ? Well Gandalf said in another topic something about how in reality it works when a cop shoot because people were talking about the possibility of using courthouse ... This would be a bit too complex in fact, but then maybe that the court could take care of people who feel abused by the situation (Just like in real life ... you feel abused, then go to court and explain and argue over the facts... ) ... For sure, it would require some permanent judges ...

Another solution could be to bring a weapon license system and a law license system ... Let me explain : A weapon license is delivered to citizen after answer few questions succefuly. With this, they are allowed to buy weapons. If someone dm too much, then, this privilege could be removed. Now the law license : Few questions about the law and rules of argo, then the person can use a free cop skin with the badge, the deagle, the nightstick. If the person abuse his power or dm, then, admins remove the license and the person lose his ''privilege''.

Hope this help to bring a solution to an actual problem.
Best regard

[Watahell]

Yes Ghost, you do not see the value of this.

PlayerA - can only shoot with one pistol.
PlayerA - see's PlayerX Owning with Dual's
PlayerA - is envyous of PlayerX's abilitys
PlayerA - goes to a Shooting range to work on his shooting level.
PlayerA - PlayerA works his XP level up to max stat.

See the determination?
The Need for duals
The sheer power you get with Duals over single guns.

Its just like WoW.

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I don't like the idea of the newbie getting owned by an old regular. I think both should have equal skills. The cool thing would be that the winner in a gun fight would be a good player, not the character itself. I hate the idea of skill training.

"PlayerA - is envyous of PlayerX's abilitys"

Making newbies envyous of old regulars isn't very good. And besides, the "ability" doesn't count much on that situation, but the time spent on powerleveling.

The idea works good on SPRPGs/MMORPGs, but IMO not in SA:MP.

"Its just like WoW."

I'm glad this ain't WoW. It's SA:MP.

[Kitsune]

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I don't like the idea of the newbie getting owned by an old regular. I think both should have equal skills. The cool thing would be that the winner in a gun fight would be a good player, not the character itself. I hate the idea of skill training.

"PlayerA - is envyous of PlayerX's abilitys"

Making newbies envyous of old regulars isn't very good. And besides, the "ability" doesn't count much on that situation, but the time spent on powerleveling.

The idea works good on SPRPGs/MMORPGs, but IMO not in SA:MP.

"Its just like WoW."

I'm glad this ain't WoW. It's SA:MP.

This problem actually bothered me before and to some extent now, the advantage given to max skill player makes it far easier to kill another, the idea of exp is good but unbalance I'm not too sure of. There is great differences in combat capabilities between different skill levels. For example, you cannot strafe normally with deagle if your on low skill. Such an action is of common use but at min skill you are very limited. This is the only problem I see with the exp idea but I am not sure if it is actually a big issue. I think I would have to see what differences there are at different skills and have a deep thought before I can have a more definitive answer :poke:

[Jaaskaa]

And anyways, afte few months, everyone will have their skill maxed out or almost ...

[Delta1]

i dont know why you get your panties up in a bunch about this 

first of, speaking as a cop, if the cadets woudnt have the right to suspect and the right guns, crime in the U.S of argonath would raise by 4-fold  :sig: :m4: :sig:
the cadets are sometimes the only cops in the ARPD at the moment and there arent enough fully trained officers to do the job.

so the least the ARPD can do is assign more experienced cadets as full cops