[SA:MP] Forcing roleplay confusion

[Stivi]

[16:54:28] Denis_Soprano(57) grabs the rope and ties Stivi's hands.
[16:54:38] Denis_Soprano(57) drags stivi to the sultan.

So that is forcing to RP?

The post is not meant to be provocative, Denis has agreed on me posting this.

[Hady.]

In my own opinion, He should ask you first in /em 'S/F'

If S it's okay..
If F, You've to tell him the reason.. I mean the action your character done to make it 'fail'.

Like: Stivi Gvardia pushes Denis back, slapping him across the face.
That's a proper reason to say 'F'

Nevertheless, He is eligible to make something which is able to block your moves ''RPly'' before tying you.

But still, You've to get your chance to RP.

[CharlieKasper]

Not forcing if you go along with it or you decide to find your way out. If denis decides to completely ignore the latter, then its forcing his roleplay.

[Stivi]

In my own opinion, He should ask you first in /em 'S/F'

If S it's okay..
If F, You've to tell him the reason.. I mean the action your character done to make it 'fail'.

Like: Stivi Gvardia pushes Denis back, slapping him across the face.
That's a proper reason to say 'F'

Nevertheless, He is eligible to make something which is able to block your moves ''RPly'' before tying you.

Yes, but that's exactly what happened I typed nothing in RP during that time frame.

Not forcing if you go along with it or you decide to find your way out. If denis decides to completely ignore the latter, then its forcing his roleplay.

I stood still.

[Hady.]

Yes, but that's exactly what happened I typed nothing in RP during that time frame.

I stood still.

As I've mentioned before, You've to get your chance whilst RPing with him.
Unless, you don't react.

[[Rstar]Peter]

Well using the "attempt" word is very helpful in these kind of situations.

Peter attempts to drag Robert into the room.
/em S/F?
bla bla bla bla

[Antonio.]

S/F is is more worse than extending your hand.

[Stivi]

As I've mentioned before, You've to get your chance whilst RPing with him.
Unless, you don't react.

I know that, okay ? No one has still answered my initial question, which was: "Is this forcing RP ?".

[[Rstar]Peter]

About robbery RP scenarios, lets pretend that I tried to rob "subject1".
So yeah after some sentences I'm about to steal his wallet:

Peter frisks subject1.
/em what Peter found?
Subject1's /em A wallet, lighter and a packet of cigarette.

Situation 1 :
Peter takes the wallet, and takes out 10k from it
This is forcing RP

Situation 2 :
Peter takes a look at the inside of the wallet.
/em what do I find?
subject1's /em 100$
Peter takes the money, dropped the wallet and ran away
This is fine

Situation 3 :
Peter takes a look at the inside of the wallet.
/em what do I find?
subject1's /em 100$
Peter takes the money, dropped the wallet and killed subject1
DM, there is no any reason to kill the subject1 as he gave all of the money that he had in his wallet.

Situation 4 :
Peter takes a look at the inside of the wallet.
/em what do I find?
subject1's /em nothing
after that Peter kills the subject1.
This is DM, 'cause there is no any reason to kill subject1 as he didn't have money. Actually subject1 avoided the RP by RPing, which is fine.

Situation 5 :
Peter takes a look at the inside of the wallet.
/em what do I find?
subject1's /em nothing
Peter dropped the wallet and ran away.
This is fine

[jovanca]

i myself use 's/f' thing when im roleplaying with those who i know wont use 'f' in their favour, just to avoid getting knocked out, tied up etc. (which mostly comes down to roleplaying with my own group members, or those who know our roleplaying style) with the rest i just roleplay such as '/me throws a punch at his face trying to knock him down' and let them roleplay their part as they wish.

[Dennis.]

Not forcing if you go along with it or you decide to find your way out. If denis decides to completely ignore the latter, then its forcing his roleplay.

Never forced someone. In that case even if i didnt ask him he told me /em fail and we found a way to cooperate together. Draging you into the sultan with 4 other people around will be dumb if you say /em F, It would be retoric question couse it didnt come straight, too. It came after a few rp.
If it was straight and If I will be ignoring your side's rp, than I could be foricing my rp.

i myself use 's/f' thing when im roleplaying with those who i know wont use 'f' in their favour, just to avoid getting knocked out, tied up etc. (which mostly comes down to roleplaying with my own group members, or those who know our roleplaying style) with the rest i just roleplay such as '/me throws a punch at his face trying to knock him down' and let them roleplay their part as they wish.

This.

Yes, but that's exactly what happened I typed nothing in RP during that time frame.

I think we both know why you dont type in such moments That's not about forcing.

[Ivan_MC]

This.

You say "This." but yet u didn't used this in your rp. U have to put the word 'attempt' somewhere there. You can't just say 'me drags him to the car' he is not some heavy object nor he is in 'coma' or something like that so u can just drag him.
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[Marcel]

S/F is is more worse than extending your hand.

[Devin]

S/F is is more worse than extending your hand.

I can agree with that one. But at the end of the day it's users preference as to how they interact with others.
The biggest thing is allowing the other parties options to respond to situations whilst roleplaying and not forcing them into a corner to follow only what you want them to do thus making it boring for them.

That's something that people should try not to forget. You don't have to win every time, after it all it's just a game.

[Teddy]

Wasn't there an old command that randomly selected success fail?

something like /sf tries to run away

then it was like either

"Teddy tries to run away and succeeds"
or
"Teddy tries to run away and fails"

#DnDStyle