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SAPD - Application Only Reform.

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Reply #30 on: June 19, 2015, 01:09:47 am
What the hell is even this about? you have to sign up on a forum and attend to trainings just to ROLEPLAY a damn cop? are you kidding me? just because some newcomers abuse it you decided to take it away from all of us? what happened to argonath vision and all that? what happened to being able to roleplay without having to register on another forum, apply, wait months then train just to be able to roleplay a cop on a goddamn videogame? you gotta be joking, come on people... there gotta be another way out of this problem, i know lots of "freecops" who stay on argo just to roleplay a cop without having to apply like in the rest of the "rp" servers.
With the launch of RS5 "freecops" were officially no more and were integrated into SAPD with the rank of officers, what are you doing now? taking steps backwards?.
In my opinion a person with common sense and capable of speaking english should be able to roleplay what he wants straight off the bat (this is what Argonath is all about!) without having to apply on a goddamn forum.
Hey Miller. I'm not surprised of your reaction. Some will react this way and it's completely human. Will you please tell me what this current system has contributed positively to the community for the last eight years? Would you also please explain to me how hard it is to apply on the forum and why it would be bad to straighten up the police department and involve more roleplay?

I'm asking you all this because these changes are needed to make Argonath a living place again. You might be as much against changes like these as you want, but you can never take away the fact that the current statistics are pointing the wrong way for saying this is a wrong move. I'm quite sure this will bring more players to the server, as much as it will contribute to the police academy in general. And I strongly believe that if we make it "harder " to become a cop, more people will respect the work they do and the roleplay level will rise a few steps.

To start with, no we are not kidding you. And no this is not just because of people abusing the way the current system is.
We are making this change to suit the majority of the players, to change the way things have been for many years and actually take the majority of players opinions into consideration.

You won't have to wait months to be able to go on duty either if those running SAPD have their systems and members in order. As a matter of fact, if SAPD is running efficiently the way this functions will be more effective and useful than the current way the systems work that basically nullify the need for SAPD to even be there.

By doing this it will not only provide SAPD with a real job, but it will add incentive to join the group and use it as a career instead of a part-time mess around job on the server to shoot orange dots.

You may see it as stepping backwards, I personally see it as stepping forward. But everyone has their own opinion.
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Reply #31 on: June 19, 2015, 01:11:19 am
The least that should be done for those players that play legal and just want some cop RP now and then, is make sure the lowest SAPD rank will have no activity neither forum report requirements.


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Reply #32 on: June 19, 2015, 01:12:59 am
What the hell is even this about? you have to sign up on a forum and attend to trainings just to ROLEPLAY a damn cop? are you kidding me? just because some newcomers abuse it you decided to take it away from all of us? what happened to argonath vision and all that? what happened to being able to roleplay without having to register on another forum, apply, wait months then train just to be able to roleplay a cop on a goddamn videogame? you gotta be joking, come on people... there gotta be another way out of this problem, i know lots of "freecops" who stay on argo just to roleplay a cop without having to apply like in the rest of the "rp" servers.
With the launch of RS5 "freecops" were officially no more and were integrated into SAPD with the rank of officers, what are you doing now? taking steps backwards?.
In my opinion a person with common sense and capable of speaking english should be able to roleplay what he wants straight off the bat (this is what Argonath is all about!) without having to apply on a goddamn forum.

Let's take this step by step why don't we. First of all the newcomers certainly aren't the only issue, there are numerous veterans who go on police duty for the free weapons and the chance to chase orange dots, and if you sit here and try to deny that you are a fool.

There has been a substantial lack of roleplay from the SAPD and civilians/criminals for several years, the only difference between now and then, is the fact that we are all willing to come out from behind the shadows and admit that there was a problem and it needed to be addressed. I'm not sitting here stating that there was absolutely no roleplay, because there were certain individuals at certain times that would roleplay, but over 85% of the time there was no roleplay, and as harsh as that sounds it is completely. true.

No one ever stated that it would take "several months" to become an SAPD officer. Seeing as I was one of the SAPD personnel responsible for setting up the academy with the supervision of Drix, the SAPD Academy is actually a very quick and efficient way. There is no reason it should take long to become an SAPD officer if you so wish to become one, and experience something entirely new, with this new system in place.

The elimination of freecops from RS5 was to integrate everyone who wanted to be an officer into the SAPD and to not differentiate between the two. This system is not a step back at all, this is actually an improvement. You're getting rid of the individuals who took advantage of police duty, in favor for those who will take it serious, and have pride in their role and the roleplay they have the potential to produce. This is actually allowing growth rather than demise.

Your last point is completely true, with good English and common sense you should be able to roleplay whatever you want, and you are also true with stating that, that is the Argonath vision. Guess what, if you have good English and common sense you may also still roleplay whatever you like, this new system is not refraining you from doing so, the only person that is going to stop you from doing something you want to do and set your mind to do is yourself.

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Reply #33 on: June 19, 2015, 02:14:46 am
SAPD might not have right now the amount of staff needed to deal with about 15 applications per day in my opinion. I believe that the basic structure and manpower should be granted by the Police before this all gets implemented and out of hand.
I'm looking forward for this new Era. This will actually bring more activity to the forum since more users will join.



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Reply #34 on: June 19, 2015, 02:37:58 am
How would this idea be a step back at all?
I've had many different partners on duty this month and I can say that there's a significant number of them constantly telling me
"SU21 Mulholland go"
"sus on the right"
*gets out of the car and shoots*
wait a minute, are you on the freaking duty to constantly look at tab or /MDC for orange names?

This system would simply drastically decrease the daily "orange dot chasing" and increase the actual purpose of SAPD - to protect and to serve.
If an individual wants to pursue a career in Law Enforcement then there you have it, be trustworthy and earn your chance into it.
If you want to go on duty to have free guns and act superior, then stay out


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Reply #35 on: June 19, 2015, 04:28:27 am
So, times that everyone was aiming for that epic blue color are back! Good to see this! Looking forward to see how this will go!

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Reply #36 on: June 19, 2015, 05:35:17 am
Excuse my language; FUCK YE!  :D



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Reply #37 on: June 19, 2015, 05:44:17 am
RIP CMPD :cry:



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Reply #38 on: June 19, 2015, 06:09:22 am
I'm so happy, words cant even...



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Reply #39 on: June 19, 2015, 06:51:28 am
Good - finally looks like we're heading into a right direction.



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Reply #40 on: June 19, 2015, 07:09:45 am
I am so happy to see this, like honestly.... can't express how happy I am now.
I fully support this in all ways possible. Those interested into SAPD will apply and dedicate their time on proving worthy.
On other hand, the criminals, the trolls and others - will not be able to abuse  :hah:

This will greatly improve SAPD and will make it's structure more proper, so instead of having mafia guys running around on duty, there will be people who truly are interested into the job.

If this is not implemented at the end, I propose for a "volunteer officer".
They get the blue security guard skin and are equipped with pepper spray, baton and just few ammo of silencer.
They are not able to suspect, the rank rather serves as being an "observer" to see if you would like the job and if you would like to proceed with such career.



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Reply #41 on: June 19, 2015, 08:36:20 am
This is great, RIP days of my corruption.



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Reply #42 on: June 19, 2015, 08:54:08 am
I smiled. Didn't think you had it in you, good job.

And really, you need to know the public's opinion ? Wasn't that more than obvious ?

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Reply #43 on: June 19, 2015, 08:57:38 am
Good Job!


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Reply #44 on: June 19, 2015, 09:13:57 am
Freecops were always a big part of the server, and now you're getting rid of that. It's a big draw to people to be able to log in and be a cop, I know that's what I did and is the reason I stuck around.
Also, denying entry to the cop role to certain criminals will totally work really well without any repercussions, it's why Luca_Scalise was such a giant success in RS3 when he ruined the entire SAPD in like 1 second by doing just that. What's to stop it going back to being a total joke like it was at the end of 2007?

tl;dr what a great idea I'm sure nothing will go wrong

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