This is the problem.

[Slavik]

Why dont we just get some alcohol and calm down a bit?

Might be a bad idea

[Jack Rosso]

Why dont we just get some alcohol and calm down a bit?

No, that didn't work out too well for Jaaskaa last time. Lets not get into that.

I guess you do not understand that SA:MP isn ot the only server here, and might under circumstances also not be at all here.
HQ members have always been free to take decisions just as they are now, that they were not doing it shows that maybe some were not fir to be leaders. As for the vision, it was as valid in 2009 as it is today, just look as the people who still remeber the same discussion being held at that time.
Thoguh the people discussing then would find the current rules heaven, as things have changed since then. Just some pricks who prefer to roleplay good roleplayers want to be listened to.

What many find an issue is that even although they spend time and effort into the community by creating idea's and attempting to establish something within the community it nevertheless immediately gets denied because it does not fit or suit the vision that was once, many years ago, created as it back then suited the community. Many, including SA:MP HQ team, believe that the vision is outdated and no longer fits the community as it currently is. (This does not only mean SA:MP, but also its other divisions ... don't forget that SA:MP has always been the biggest division on Argonath and has influenced the community to what it is today.) Then you come in, even although you have been inactive for a long period of time, not contributing to the community other than paying the monthly bills and showing up during a shitstorm, and you just flag the constructive ideas of those who have contributed a lot to the community lately by spending their time and effort creating ideas and working things out in-game.

You're ignoring other HQ members when they need you, you've not been there impenting changes when it was necessarily and you remain stuck in this old fashioned ideology that does no longer work in Argonath RPG 2015. Its good to see the SA:MP HQ Team has a different ''vision'' and infact implented some changes that would never have happened if it wasn't for the old team being removed leaving the community.

[Teddy]

@Gandalf

This is a joke. We look like kids... we're here fighting with each other. We're suppose to be a team, this isn't a team. You won't answer my Skype messages for two days... yet you have people here taking "Gandalf vrs HQ vrs Players vrs Veterans" side.

It isn't the mature thing to do... why don't you get on TeamSpeak with us and resolve this.

Let's keep this on every page so he can't ignore it.

[JackWhite]

Let's keep this on every page so he can't ignore it.

If he wants to ignore it, he ignores it, lol.

[Teddy]

If he wants to ignore it, he ignores it, lol.

Ain't that the truth

[Axison]

Lets just move on with whatever it is the HQ has planned. So far its been good but this topic is cancerous and we don't want it to spread any further.

[Pizza4_Games]

I hope this topic gets removed as fast as possible.

[Teddy]

Lets just move on with whatever it is the HQ has planned. So far its been good but this topic is cancerous and we don't want it to spread any further.

We intend to do so, we have not yet been instructed by Gandalf otherwise.

[Pizza4_Games]

We intend to do so, we have not yet been instructed by Gandalf otherwise.

Why do you have to wait for gandalf to tell you to move on or someshit? if this continues on there, something bad will happend.

[Axison]

We intend to do so, we have not yet been instructed by Gandalf otherwise.

You guys have made decisions that made a positive impact on the community and its players. So lets keep it that way. If Gandalf does not want these changes then too bad.

[Khm]

Why do you have to wait for gandalf to tell you to move on or someshit? if this continues on there, something bad will happend.

He wasn't talking with you..

[Teddy]

Why do you have to wait for gandalf to tell you to move on or someshit? if this continues on there, something bad will happend.

We are not the last team, we don't wait for Gandalf. Gandalf has given us some room to work with and we intend to utilize the room. Sorry, I mean a rope. It's a rope. Until Gandalf cuts that rope, or takes it back... or whatever he intends to do with his rope... we will continue working with and for you, the community.

[Pizza4_Games]

We are not the last team, we don't wait for Gandalf. Gandalf has given us some room to work with and we intend to utilize the room. Sorry, I mean a rope. It's a rope. Until Gandalf cuts that rope, or takes it back... or whatever he intends to do with his rope... we will continue working with and for you, the community.

Explains alot..
thanks teddy

[Devin]

The rope of wonders, throw some butter on one end of it and the problems are resolved.

[Chris_Knight]

Why do you have to wait for gandalf to tell you to move on or someshit? if this continues on there, something bad will happend.

Can you just stop posting that nonsense of yours, which is completely unrelated to any discussion going on.

You haven't been here enough long to even come up with anything healthy.