"Entering Building after law enforcement arrived."

[Pedro.]

Greetings, 5 minutes ago I got punished by Nexus_Riggs for "Entering Building after law enforcement arrived."

The incident happened in Downtown Los Santos in the betting shop, I was going to bet on horses and that's when I see a bunch of cops standing near the fire station, I got in the betting stop, did /horses and bet, when I finish betting I notice a staff message from Arslan saying "out you come" and when I come outside I get tempbanned.

With this whole thing I got a few questions

Is this a kind of new rule we should know of?
Couldn't this be a RPed situation?
Shouldn't we have some time to understand what's going on and not getting banned right after?


I don't often get punished, in fact I almost never get punished and it's sad to see this happening, and don't come with the "common sense" thing because I'd accept that in a RP situation, not in a tempban case.


Awaiting replies.
Thank you.

[Justin39]

If police have barricaded a building, are you just going to walk right through the barricade and enter the building? I can't see someone doing that in real life while there's cops possibly aiming at the door, it's not roleplay.

[Pedro.]

I saw no barricade, there were like 3 cars in the other side of the road near the fire station.

[Antonio.]

If police have barricaded a building, are you just going to walk right through the barricade and enter the building? I can't see someone doing that in real life while there's cops possibly aiming at the door, it's not roleplay.

And this is far from an RL-RP server and we see even more worse things in-game from trucker refuse to stop to RP to officers just looking to kill, yet this is being punished whilst it's not even a rulebreak.

You also can't judge the intention of the criminal, maybe he's going to barricade himself in a building and use it as a defense; there are countless of roleplay scenarios he can choose from.

[Sawyer]

If police have barricaded a building, are you just going to walk right through the barricade and enter the building? I can't see someone doing that in real life while there's cops possibly aiming at the door, it's not roleplay.

Since when walking through barricades gets you tempbanned and not suspected?

[AK47]

If police have barricaded a building, are you just going to walk right through the barricade and enter the building? I can't see someone doing that in real life while there's cops possibly aiming at the door, it's not roleplay.

didn't know this was a srs rlrp server

[Antonio.]

Also, forgot to point out, just because you have created a barricade it doesn't give you the right to decide the situation, otherwise it would just be forcing roleplay.

[eymas]

There is a rule based on that, yes. But not like that.

The rule is based on the area being officially blocked off by law enforcement, anyone that tries to sneak past is then removed because we all know why he did it.
To make this easier the general recommendation is to block off the affected building's entrance (even a single cop standing in front of a door counts as), although if this is not possible you can extend it to the area as long as its feasible (You can block off a street but not the entire pershing square or ganton)

Truthfully you should not be removed by staff, but by the ARPD itself. Unless your true intention is to seek a part in a shootout then we act, depending on how you listen, there will be no need for heavy actions such as tempbans.

I hope this explained enough, if there are any questions feel free to ask 


And to prevent another you-know, let's try to avoid the arguments about whether it was roleplay or not.
In regards to the punishment, You're free to shout your concerns to me in private.

[Mang]

The ban is justified and according to the rules, it has been like this for a long time and it's nothing new, not being allowed to enter after PD arrives to scene.
By entering a barricaded building you're disturbing the RP between law enforcement and the suspects, do you really think entering a building where hostages are being held, an agent is negotiating, and starting betting on horses or w/e you were going to do is a-okay?

[Drawn]

Well Pedro obiously got asked to leave and he left, why did he still received the ban? shouldn't he be verbally warned first?

[Fuzzy]

The ban is justified and according to the rules, it has been like this for a long time and it's nothing new, not being allowed to enter after PD arrives to scene.
By entering a barricaded building you're disturbing the RP between law enforcement and the suspects, do you really think entering a building where hostages are being held, an agent is negotiating, and starting betting on horses or w/e you were going to do is a-okay?

If the situation was like he said and there was no clear indication of the building being barricaded or there being a hostage situation inside, then I cannot see how it was justified.

[Sawyer]

The ban is justified and according to the rules, it has been like this for a long time and it's nothing new, not being allowed to enter after PD arrives to scene.
By entering a barricaded building you're disturbing the RP between law enforcement and the suspects, do you really think entering a building where hostages are being held, an agent is negotiating, and starting betting on horses or w/e you were going to do is a-okay?

Even if so, shouldn't he be dragged out by the ARPD?

[Mang]

I just checked my footage and there's a barricade on the road, the place is surrounded by officers and agents + there's snipers on the roofs. It was pretty clear the situation is barricaded, so don't even start with your "I didn't know" excuses.

Spoiler for Hiden:

(there's also one car on the other side of the road)

Situations like this were always being dealt with by admins, not ARPD, I don't understand why people are only now starting to have problems with that.

[Drawn]

Because we never had such things/scenarios.
The barricade wasn't even there when I was anyway, this may be after the tempban.
And why was he banned after he left? that's the question.

[eymas]

The justification of this punishment is up to SA:MP HQ to decide. If you still have any concerns please raise them with me in private, this to avoid another flame-war.
Situations like these are indeed dealt by admins, but only if the player refuses to comply with the ARPD on scene multiple times, or immediately jumps past with clear intentions completely ignoring the blockade.
You can at least expect people to be helpful and tell you to leave first.


Seeing that screenshot i'm not really surprised you caused this, but the cops were not standing at the fire department...