'Changes' that change nothing.

[Axison]

Just like when people started moaing about RS5 and asked daily ''When is RS5 coming'' and all that.. baaaam....RS5 got released early.....

And how buggy was it? If you want new scripts to be like RS5 at its earlier stage, go ahead, yell at the scripters.

[Devin]

Don't use McDonalds as an example, Teddy may get hungry.

And once again, look at what happened when RS5 was released too soon. We won't have that sort of problem again.
Thus what I have said, scripts will be released to the public when it is suitable to be released. At the moment they're busy with the scripts so give them some time.

Well...bro the small issues makes it bigger, if one small problem cant be fixed, then it gets bigger thats why people should focus on the small issuse before it gets bigger.

People shouldn't be finding problems where none matter in that sense, there's nothing preventing people from being able to roleplay in-game right now so why do there need to be reasons why they can't roleplay?

[Bruce.]

Since Teddy got the lead this game is boring... If you know what I mean... If you didn't get the point don't post.

People like you don't deserve shit in a gaming community mate, was the other team doing anything good that would make you "happy"? Not really. Teddy and his team are doing the best they can and hmmm as far as I see Teddy and other scripters that are working on the server now did more in 6 months then the previous team did in one year and a half... but we're not here who did more and who did less... if you don't wanna play here anymore... nobody is forcing you to stay feel free to leave wherever you want... heavy rp or real life rp nobody cares about other servers... everyone is free to choose where he wanna play...People of Argonath and specially SA:MP RPG server ones were never happy with what they got... they just request request request request and request.... Scripters are humans aswell they are not fucking robots... they can't script one milion scripts in a day... give them a break... if you're not patient then it's your fault not theirs...

[Robin#]

People like you don't deserve shit in a gaming community mate, was the other team doing anything good that would make you "happy"? Not really. Teddy and his team are doing the best they can and hmmm as far as I see Teddy and other scripters that are working on the server now did more in 6 months then the previous team did in one year and a half... but we're not here who did more and who did less... if you don't wanna play here anymore... nobody is forcing you to stay feel free to leave wherever you want... heavy rp or real life rp nobody cares about other servers... everyone is free to choose where he wanna play...People of Argonath and specially SA:MP RPG server ones were never happy with what they got... they just request request request request and request.... Scripters are humans aswell they are not f**cking robots... they can't script one milion scripts in a day... give them a break... if you're not patient then it's your fault not theirs...

Yeah, you are right.
I don't give a fuck for what ever you say.

[Dennis.]

Instead of sitting on the forum.. doing the Einstein, go give your contribution in game.

[Bruce.]

Yeah, you are right.
I don't give a fuck for what ever you say.

Well you said you don't give a fuck about "this server" but you're still around here talking and talking but actually not doing anything... like being in game or stuff like that you know...

[Traser]

Yeah, you are right.
I don't give a fuck for what ever you say.

If you don't give a fuck, Leave..
I do not tolerate you having such a provocative attitude on your posts, You are part of this community, if you want it or not, if you want to fuck it up for us because you want to behave like an asshole. Leave now and never return.

And for everyone that will reply "You want them to leave? we have no players online almost", If he has this attitude, yes he needs to leave, if he is ingame he would only scare the new players.

[Tiny]

It's quite funny to receive all this shitting when the only purpose of this topic is to propose a simple idea in my attempt to contribute solving an issue that has been going on for years. The HQ should simply step up and give a better answer than turning down every topic, or else such topics will never stop appearing. Telling someone to be patient for all these years is not working, and showing me the door out is really not positive for the community. I'd personally have left to a more 'strict rp' server if I didn't like this place as a community, and not as a server. I'm sorry for trying to help, you seem like you are all so happy with the server's state that any change affects it negatively. I'm done, peace.

[Dennis.]

I still think that this is the only solution:

• For me bringing back /save - /load and bussines profit(even the old one) asap, will help a lot. It's not a big deal but you know, people are waiting so long for it. /save and /load can help people to save money so they don't need to work all the time, but in the time that they are supposed to "work" they can roleplay and have fun.
  
  
• /dice - It's a small thing but that can help too. That would help in casinos and increase the activity there. Increasing activity there means increasing players interactions. Increasing players interactions means increasing players count. Everything which helps in "Players Interaction" is important.
  
  
• Making the system a bit easier will help, too. This is for new players. Find an easier way to introduce new players.
• Bring back "Freecop", in some req sure.
  
  
  
• Factions are an important thing too. Let me remember something, when there was a war between Soprano and Corleone, both parts increased their activity by 10 players+ from each side. The same thing for Gvardia and other factions.  More interactions => Something to do in-game => Increased player count.
  
  @Staff
  About players count (?) just give it some time, trust me. Simply continue the good/hard job with mapping/scripting, don't waste time in forum explain everything to everyone. This goes to players too. Instead of sitting in forum, go and give your contribute in-game.
  

[Volcom]

It's all about the time. Don't worry, player count will raise after a period of time.

time time time, yeah if you give more time Argonath will go down.

[Que]

There is no solution to the problem unless people start talking to each other in a proper manner.
Even then, there'll be hard to find a solution. That's not because of the current development team. Let us be clear about that.

People are getting bored. The unique taste of Argonath is long gone. We are no longer a respected server and it has been the same zabba-zabba saga for years.
Even though the next changes are going to be splendid, I find it hard to believe that people will return to Argonath even then.

So, if I were you I'd do the best out of the situation and, yes, attract new players to stay. But that's something that should come natural and not by four players meeting up at LSAP typing "help?????????". Also focus on the current groups and its potential, what they can do to develop even further and what the community can do to promote the server(s) over social media and by adding videos on YouTube.

[Nathan]

In regards to the player count statistic that everyone keeps bring up and saying how SA:MP isn't dying, please actually look into it.

I just went on the top 15 servers and here is what I found:

- 10 of the servers or 66 percent of them are national/language specific outside of English (Spanish, Russian, etc.)
- 3 were free-roam / DM servers
- 2 were "srs-rp" servers

I joined the Russian servers (since I'm only fluent in Russian and English), the servers were filled with bots and AFK players. This wasn't one server, this was 5 servers. So the numbers don't add up correctly.

Please stop with this bullshit statistic. Numbers doesn't mean engagement from the userbase end. I can have 1.5k followers on Instagram and only 10 percent of those are actually being engaged and are actively liking my pictures.

Face the facts, SA:MP is being left for better games such as GTA:MP and IV:MP. The game is over 10 years old now. Death is expected.

Right now, the best thing we can do is improve our scripts as well as our OWN community outlook and engagement. Want more players in game? Come in-game yourself.

[Rusty]

The HQ should simply step up and give a better answer than turning down every topic, or else such topics will never stop appearing.

A better answer to your initial post?  Is that what you are looking for.
Or do you want a answer to something else.

[SugarD]

Okay, seems like you're all enjoying the server. It's so fun it has 15 players.

MTA:VC. 26 player limit. Before ASE died, people fought to get in and roleplay there. Quantity has nothing to do with quality. IV:MP's early days are another example of this. So is VC:MP. I could go on and on. If people got over themselves and just tried to have fun, we wouldn't have any of these issues.

[Thomas_A]

Instead of sitting on the forum.. doing the Einstein, go give your contribution in game.

Solution is out there, in the server. Yesterday I noticed at least like 5 new players who were willing to learn about the server and stay there, but some of them rarely got help and headed to Ammunation, did their own thing (y'know what they do in gunstore). Took some effort to convince one of them to change their mind and start roleplaying properly, but as I said, solution is out there, in the server, head ingame instead of being a keyboard warrior on forums.
 Teach new players the basics of roleplaying and teach them about the server, they'll most likely stay and there we go, playercount will rise and roleplay style will change IF you teach them. If you expect old players to return then dont be naive, we all will leave eventually, this is like circle of life.