'Changes' that change nothing.

[Satoshi]

Want more players in game? Come in-game yourself.

And try starting a roleplay scene instead of staying AFK 

[Deni1997]

And for those players who moan and talk shit on forums change that a little bit..Come online and stop talking shit around forums..Whole community is giving everything they can to make the server better and you still don't respect them at all..
They also have lifes and they can't spend all day sitting infront of PC..They're giving the best they can from themselves and you should appreciate that..

[psyron]

whatever happens, dont let any new players see these topics. can be embarrassing lol

[Johan_S]

Hello Tiny, i don't get your point.

[Devin]

It's quite funny to receive all this shitting when the only purpose of this topic is to propose a simple idea in my attempt to contribute solving an issue that has been going on for years. The HQ should simply step up and give a better answer than turning down every topic, or else such topics will never stop appearing. Telling someone to be patient for all these years is not working, and showing me the door out is really not positive for the community. I'd personally have left to a more 'strict rp' server if I didn't like this place as a community, and not as a server. I'm sorry for trying to help, you seem like you are all so happy with the server's state that any change affects it negatively. I'm done, peace.

You want input on your post which has been given, you want to then say that the development team has been here for "all these years" yet they have only been in that position for less than a year and have already done more than you could imagine.

If you believe "trying to help" is to stir up arguments and point at HQ and developers, then you are severely misguided.

[Tiny]

A better answer to your initial post?

Yes.

You want input on your post which has been given, you want to then say that the development team has been here for "all these years" yet they have only been in that position for less than a year and have already done more than you could imagine.

If you believe "trying to help" is to stir up arguments and point at HQ and developers, then you are severely misguided.

Where exactly did I speak about the developers? And where exactly did I open an arguement? If you can't accept someone's opinion then simply lock this topic, beacause most of you people think I like having these long pointless discussions. I am proposing a simple idea, yet you make all this mess about developers/scripts and all that, while I already said it's not the case even.

Hello Tiny, i don't get your point.

Hello Johan, read again.

whatever happens, dont let any new players see these topics. can be embarrassing lol

It's not that they will not observe the things we should be embarassed about.

[Devin]

Telling someone to be patient for all these years is not working, and showing me the door out is really not positive for the community.

What else would you be told to be patient waiting for?

[Tiny]

What else would you be told to be patient waiting for?

I really have no issue with the script of the server, I appreciate the developers' work and respect the fact they dedicate their time to do this work for free. I don't really remember what I had in mind when saying that, probably didn't express myself properly.

[Rusty]

Hello,

I've been away for like 2-3 weeks and what I expected has already taken place after the so called 'changes' have started to be implemented.

I won't start writing a long topic so everyone reads, so I'll go straight to the point. Either decide where the community is going to end up being, or don't change stuff at all. All I see is changes here and there, but no actual change to the main issue. People have changed - the players who keep the server alive want to ROLEPLAY, and the only reason some have not left the server is because they like the people, the community, and not the server/script.

Give people what they are looking for and stop the 'Argonath is a world of its own' joke - before Argonath dies. Get a bit stricter on roleplay, it won't hurt the outdated 'vision' we keep following even though it only brings negative outcome to the server.

It's time to see an actual change, before the last few remaining veterans who actually contribute leave as well. We've lost many, haven't we?

We won't switch the server to something that is "serious" it's just not Argonath's style.  If you are hoping to see way more stricter rules surrounding roleplay then you are grasping at straws right about now, yes I would highly support a move in this direction but it just won't ever flourish.  It was a miracle enough that the slight changes I proposed for roleplaying made it through but furthering them wouldn't become a reality.  This real change to roleplay you seek is something that you, I and everyone else as players must change it's not a sole issue for HQ or anyone else.  There is a wide selection of people roleplaying out there take a look around we have more than a "few" veterans left who pull their weight - select group managed to bring people together in a broke ass desert town for the past weeks.  It's all about trying and being creative and you will get people to follow suit.

Quite a-lot of players could change their shitty ways on how they approach roleplay (such as the infamous /cb help am being robbed bullshit) but that is up to those that play like this.  In the end you play for fun, there is a world to explore.  My advice drop the street gang, the scene is dead move onto something else that could be the next "wow factor" and get people talking.  People have changed you are right about that but so has Argonath in it's own way.

“Change will not come if we wait for some other person, or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”
Yes I just stole a Obama quote but it fits perfectly here.

[Johan_S]

Hello Johan, read again.

Tiny, i don't think changing the rules will improve anything from the current situation, also might be fatal for our server. Everyone has his own "policy" but we must provide the freedom that Argonath give for players. We made few serious steps regarding to: SAPD, white blips, as well the /area and i think that is the maximum of boundaries. (Now for my self, I regret those changes, because with the results we got now im not happy) If someone refuses to roleplay with you, you can simply report, it's very classic.

[Frank_Hawk]

Bring back the old /area.

I tried helping a new player yesterday but couldn't find him on the map and he didn't even know where he was either. He ended up quitting afterwards. The lag is also getting worse - do we have any update on it? New players won't play on a lag/desync infested server when they can play on other servers which don't lag.

[.Mario.]

Bring back the old /area.

Along with orange blips.

Gang wars and groups are what keep this server alive, and currently we have no gang wars. If there are gang wars people will work to buy guns and that's what makes the economy. Argonath is not a strict roleplay server so why are we making it so. People should learn how to fight properly, without breaking the server rules, and if they don't, there are administrators to handle.

[Johan_S]

Along with orange blips.

The sad reality that we must admit is the: cops proven that usage of MCD won't happen. Chasing orange dots was everything they did (without provoking any departament and serious well known players) yet we need them back.

All of our veterans know: everything that give joy and emotions are the conflicts and the brawls, things that give you motivation to be more strong each time and to work more. Roreplay without challenge, competition in every aspect and arcade it's boring for majority and that's the main reason why Argonath never had "normal citizens" only few that i can count with my left hand fingers and all what they did was chating in /p. Actually we're just chating in /p, i have 2 months without being killed from a gun WTF.

We must live with our reality that we cannot step to strict RP server, we made the first steps, and here we are: complaining for member count.
-Where are all the criminals which wanted the removal of area and orange blips?
-Where are those members wich yelled everyday for abuses of "free cops"?
We didn't had bussines script from 2 years but we had happy players enjoying everyday. I was the one who celebrated the removal of "free cops" and orange blips, all i can say now is that i regred due to the present depressive situation online in our second home.

My call is to make two steps backwards: Return orange blips, return free cops. Regarind to area its not important as long as Phone works properly.

[Brian]

The sad reality that we must admit is the: cops proven that usage of MCD won't happen. Chasing orange dots was everything they did (without provoking any departament and serious well known players) yet we need them back.

Not sure where you get this information. /MDC is the only command we have to track criminals, and all it does is show if there's a criminal on duty. Other than that we can only /area them and get a rough location. We then search for criminals but it's not as easy to find them. Especially as they still have a run-how-long. So they can just stand somewhere in red county and it's hard for cops to catch them, especially as they're usually with friends, if we're not blasted dead at GS9 while getting gas, that is.

[.Matthew.]

About lag, yes, it's getting worse and worse. And yet, people think it's smart to advertise on SA-MP forum and invite them into a laggy server.