Why can't we achieve greatness?

[Luke]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Bruce.]

The roleplay mentality has been decreasing drastically and really unfortunately it feels like most part of the players are not attempting to increase it. It has to come at a point that a roleplay ends up with someone NOT dead.

[SugarD]

It has to come at a point that a roleplay ends up with someone NOT dead.

It sounds like you're saying that people should die for a roleplay to be successful.

[Deni1997]

The roleplay mentality has been decreasing drastically and really unfortunately it feels like most part of the players are not attempting to increase it. It has to come at a point that a roleplay ends up with someone NOT dead.

You are right, most players do not attempt to increase it. No matter how much hard work is put into the community, players just do not care.. And that needs to change.

[Ivan_Dzeba]

I think that we should be light.

For example, for any bug abuse or any rulebreak, it would go from the lightest punishment to the strictest.

Going alot more strict and banning everyone and all that, you are saying ''we might lose players, but it will be better''

Yes, but you would probably die of boredom or something else, Argonath would lose atleast 50 percent of its playerbase, or if we really go strict and ban everyone and other things, it might be over 50 percent.

I think fines are the BEST solution. Banning everyone or punishing them a few times will piss them off, then they will just start swearing and leave Argonath.

Also to mention, Argonath is getting new players every day, and they are playing a big role in getting Argonath's popularity and population go back high again. But yet, IF we start strictly punishing them or banning them, then we will start losing players.

Not only underage or new, but maybe veterans or regulars which after getting banned or smh will lose interest and won't give a single damn fuck about getting unbanned or giving a single damn fuck for  Argonath, and they will just leave it. Lustig for example, he got banned, and lost interest and just left.

So my solution is: Take it lightly, we want to get players, and raise our population and popularity, but, lets not go FULL-STRICT mode.

More players,more popularity = More RP, more fun, more enjoyment, like seriously, who wouldn't want these 3 things that I just said.

[Mikal]

Yes, but you would probably die of boredom or something else, Argonath would lose atleast 50 percent of its playerbase, or if we really go strict and ban everyone and other things, it might be over 50 percent.

Are you implying 50 percent of the player base abuses bugs?

And why should people who have abused serious bugs for the own gain and haven't bothered reporting them to HQ specifically because they can gain from it be left in Argonath? The only way to discourage that kind of abuse an encourage bug reporting of those specific kind of bugs is severe punishments, if you strip their cash and let them stay, the only thing they'll tell themselves is 'better luck next time'.

[Ivan_Dzeba]

Are you implying 50 percent of the player base abuses bugs?

And why should people who have abused serious bugs for the own gain and haven't bothered reporting them to HQ specifically because they can gain from it be left in Argonath? The only way to discourage that kind of abuse an encourage bug reporting of those specific kind of bugs is severe punishments, if you strip their cash and let them stay, the only thing they'll tell themselves is 'better luck next time'.

Firstly, no, I am not implying that 50 percent is bug abuse, I am implying 50 percent break rules, just sometimes or often.

If you want players which won't break rules, always report it,be mature,be kind, be professional,be respectful to stay on the server, and the immature and rulebreaking to leave it, then I suppose Argonath's lifetime will drastically decrease. Because of lack of players, which will soon create a lack of interest.

I myself, am trying to control myself, to not act childish, or rulebreak, I apologize to anyone if I have annoyed him or pissed him off, or if I ever injured someone with my words, I am very sorry.

I think Argonath is in a good path now, and I wouldn't want to change it.

But if you want to lose underage,new players and perhaps a few veterans and regulars, well, as I said, if that happens, it will drastically decrease Argonath's life time.

[Gnb_22]

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Why do you even bother posting on the forums ?

[Ivan_Dzeba]

Why do you even bother posting on the forums ?

Do you have a problem?

You absolutely have no reason nor authority to tell me what to post,how to post,when to post, and to tell me if I should post or not.

Please, share with me your problem, because, surely you didn't say that for no reason.

[eymas]

Leave personal attacks out of this topic, please.

[Gnb_22]

Leave personal attacks out of this topic, please.

It ain't personal Leon, its just that this kid add no value to any thread he posts in.

[eymas]

It ain't personal Leon, its just that this kid add no value to any thread he posts in.

Regardless, it's better to leave arguments out if it concerns the way people post. Everyone is allowed to post unless it violates any of the rules. No matter if they spout retarded nonsense or not.

[Dizzy.]

Lustig for example, he got banned, and lost interest and just left.

That was his choice not because he got banned, he just wanted to DM Gandalf before he leave. 

I leave the server cause of two reasons. First one being that I've played here for a very very long time and it just feels like it's time to let go. The other reason is that the server has lately started to lean against a more serious way of RP and it doesn't fit me.

[Kaze]

It's ideas like this that caused the playercount to drop drastically earlier in 2015 when the 'remove freecop' idea was given a shot.

This is absolute bollocks; everyone should be welcome in Argonath. Your English wasn't all that good either when you started playing here, ''veteran''.

And I agree, freecop should still be dropped. It's useless and generates a handful of problems.

>English wasn't all that good
>Born and raised in the UK

Argonath vision in a nerd term so maybe you can understand is like leaving all your router ports at home open.
Argonath vision in a real life example is like leaving all the doors and windows open in your house.
Argonath vision in a gearhead context is like leaving your engine running when you are not in the car.

2016 is the time to stop this. The way I see it, Teddy will eventually give up on trying to improve the server because of the pathetic playerbase (actually, MOST of the playerbase I can't stereotype).

And another small detail, change the name on SAMP Client to 'Argonath Roleplay'.

[Ivan_Dzeba]

It ain't personal Leon, its just that this kid add no value to any thread he posts in.

You do not know anything about me, when I want, I can be the most mature and serious kid you will ever see. Your behaviour is sickening me, but I am not the judge. You should change yourself and respect others.

Argument has ended.

Anyways, Back to topic.

Removing freecops would again be a strike to a server, if Teddy gives up on trying to improve the server, that will be a enormous strike to the server too.