Addition to the radar dots suggestion

[McGarrett]

New players will not know where to find people to interact with
It becomes imposssible for cops to actually catch a criminal unless they want to be caught
When you get shot at without seeing who shot you it will be impossible to know where the player is

New players are not mentally disabled. We got a public chat and people know how to chat. There are as well cars at the airport.

Nothing is impossible for cops. The radar dots suggestion is actually by cops because we want a bigger challenge and we want criminals to be fairly difficult to be chasing.

Then you'll take a shootout more serious instead of just bunnyhopping around. If there's a lot of players on your radar anyway, then you wont find out anyway. Perhaps this will teach players that cover is actually a good thing if you take shots instead of having a full intelligence map on your radar?

[Liviu.]

Just goes to show how good of a community leader he is. 

If you are not satisfied enough about his leadership skills, then why the fuck are you still here?

[AK47]

Telling people to fuck off won't help the community.

[Liviu.]

Telling people to fuck off won't help the community.

Moaning won't help it either.

[psyron]

Moaning won't help it either.

but i moan only during an intercourse

[.Matthew.]

I disagree with removing the dots.

Why?
Because the mentality in the server isn't right for it.
Specifically, every interaction between criminals and cops is verbal abuse. Everybody tries cheating one another and doing some superman shit like hiding an M4 with their shoe / legs, thinking mask makes them 100% unrecognizeable and similar. They have the ability to secretly earn millions of dollars, conduct a lot of illegal activities but they rather decide to do it in front of LSPD or group up in middle of city to do it, or simply just do something with a player wanted by police, and when police comes for that player who was already wanted, it's "f**cking overpowered cops abusing blablbal". There are already moans now about police using shamal to scout out for suspects, now imagine chasing somebody in an infernus or NRG, without radar blips without a shamal.

Maybe the role swap event should be done just to prove how hard it is to do the job of policing. You all think it's all about free weapons, consider other things we do beside just shooting and chasing.

[McGarrett]

but i moan only during an intercourse

which you dont have, so be on topic.

[SugarD]

New players are not mentally disabled. We got a public chat and people know how to chat. There are as well cars at the airport.

These things are not obvious to people joining for the first time, whose experiences may be from servers set up completely differently, or they may be using the game mod for the first time. Just like in the real world, common sense and logic don't always exist where they should. Likewise, sometimes people don't realize the obvious until after they have things figured out. New players have a learning curve that they have to overcome to get where everyone else is.

[Gandalf]

Telling people to fuck off won't help the community.

I know, you came back.

[Cofiliano]

I'll just copy this:

In my opinion, we need to have a compromise on this, Argonath is simply, still not ready for fully gone blips, and nametags being less visible.


I would suggest something like, you would be able to see blips on the minimap, but once you come close, they would be gone.

Example, you're driving at Garcia, and you can see blips at Queens, but once you come close in entering Queens, they would dissapear.

Like I said on the start, my main problem with this idea is the "dead" atmosphere, in which new, but regular players as well, will feel the place empty, since Argonath doesn't have a 100-150-200 player count just yet. If we reached that amount, then I wouldn't mind the complete removal, but with the current 30-40-50, I simply think its gonna do more damage then favor.

I still don't see anyone discussing this problem from both sides of the table.

[Luke]

I know, you came back.

Straight savage from my boi big g

[Stivi]

I know, you came back.

[Gandalf]

How about we make some changes on this server that are actually productive? A decent disscussion between grown-ups would also be nice.

Like real life roleplay? Which means your account is deleted when you die.

[Brian]

@Sandi I am still drinking due to Russian New year, was an idea of @Gandalf

As for the topic.
Just as I posted on the previous topic, the CIA would really benefit from this idea, and so would the role-play. How ever, half of the server is not ready. It's mostly the players that have played on more 'advanced' servers like LS-** that could easily engage in to this change. How ever players that are not so experienced and have played Argonath for most of it's 'samp life' are used to ho wit is, and this change would actually harm them. And it also takes away a good part of Argonath, for being Argonath.

So no, I would not support the idea, I would love to see it in the future when the server is ready how ever.

[Gandalf]

I'll just copy this:

I still don't see anyone discussing this problem from both sides of the table.

I agree with what you say.
The point is that I can see the advantages for several situations, however we have already made several adjustments to 'improve roleplay'and none of them seem to work according to players. Which makes me very skeptical of the advantages.
In general when there is an idea we have tested it, and how long ago does not matter as the results are not changing.
The reasons we took the decision for are as valid today as they were before.

Public chat is rarely answered, meaning that people will not know where others are.