Player base

[AhmadLov]

I can simply roleplay deeply and make you convinced until you see me chasing some suspects in a cruiser, wtf? i thought you was a to our side. 'well i'm a recruit in sapd just having fun when you guys aren't around'.

or rolling out with an enemy gang. what? why you haven't told me that? well, i didn't tell you the whole of my groups. yet keeps discovering each day.

(all of the previous story was meant in general not meaning any player).

[Devin]

I can simply roleplay deeply and make you convinced until you see me chasing some suspects in a cruiser, wtf? i thought you was a to our side. 'well i'm a recruit in sapd just having fun when you guys aren't around'.

or rolling out with an enemy gang. what? why you haven't told me that? well, i didn't tell you the whole of my groups. yet keeps discovering each day.

(all of the previous story was meant in general not meaning any player).

This makes no sense.

[AhmadLov]

well,devin i have to dis-agree about that decision. however a role play pulled so far- knowing the groups of the person who needs to join you is
important. or making it accessible by a permission same as /viewnetworth. you - i can't simply invite someone to our group without knowing his background at least. removing it would ruin everything.

[AhmadLov]

sorry if made it so poor to understand, yet i still convinced this isn't a right choice. peace

[TonySforza]

I can simply roleplay deeply and make you convinced until you see me chasing some suspects in a cruiser, wtf? i thought you was a to our side. 'well i'm a recruit in sapd just having fun when you guys aren't around'.

or rolling out with an enemy gang. what? why you haven't told me that? well, i didn't tell you the whole of my groups. yet keeps discovering each day.

(all of the previous story was meant in general not meaning any player).

People just have to not be lazy and instead of relying on /groups to get all that info should RP to find out if someone is affiliated with the police or another group before taking him into yours.

[AhmadLov]

i can simply lie to you to let me in your gang and having some activities with these groups without you being online.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

well,devin i have to dis-agree about that decision.

I think he means it makes no sense because of your fractured English

[Devin]

People just have to not be lazy and instead of relying on /groups to get all that info should RP to find out if someone is affiliated with the police or another group before taking him into yours.

Indeed, it's all about the mindset of the player. If they want to be lazy and just do /groups to see who you are associated with so be it. But sadly many will rather just do /groups then spend time roleplaying and trying to find out information on other players.

[AhmadLov]

i wouldn't mind taking some engrish lezzinz

[Mark]

Change the mindset and you solve the issue partially. This includes every player, from the player who thinks that he can freeroam and disturb others rp to the newbie at his first experience shooting for no reason. You do realize it's because of us that shit is going like this when you care more about your inventory than having fun with people. You don't need fancy scripts to roleplay, they are just a boost, use your imagination.
For me , after two years it's becoming boring to do the same things everyday, i can try as much i want to do something different, i will be either alone or with a few friends because others are much more focused into random jumping/shooting and driving around and don't give a crap about it. Maybe i'm a boring person with my roleplay but at least i try to have fun with my group or just with myself (e.g skydiving)
Change your mindset and maybe you will see some results in terms of fun. Noany removal of features will solve this imo, it is something more deep inside all of us.

[TonySforza]

i can simply lie to you to let me in your gang and having some activities with these groups without you being online.

Many people lied to me and yet again in 10 years of group managing only one undercover cop managed to slip through (gg Bass) and /groups wasn't a thing until recently, if people cannot investigate a person's past or current affairs through RP then they're not suitable to be the head of a group, simple as that wether it hurts or not.

[AhmadLov]

if you really think that i check /groups before letting anyone in my group or even standing at Gs9 you're wrong. yesterday i had a gvardia member, yeah a gvardia and he's white.

i let'd him at Gs9 and we had a decent rp and he was pretending to be someone else not to attract attention until he left and no one assaulted him. i attack-assault persons whenever they want some beefs, a fight or hustling my homies. instead of talking wisdom , search.
i don't care if the person in front of me is an arch enemy, when i interact with someone i speak with him depending on his skin no the name above their skin. i never attacked persons relying on their /groups.

and i repeat /groups is a side thing to let you manage - organize your group, nonetheless. what i talked earlier considers as managing the group.

@Tony, well , that case is different. because he make you convinced. and before you continue, don't understood me like that. i hope what i wrote above makes it obvious.

[TonySforza]

This makes no sense.

[AhmadLov]

this is funny. quoting devin trying to make me look stupid, ill consider this as a defeat. i can't decide which sucks more. poor English or someone who can't read it.

[Que]

Change the mindset and you solve the issue partially. This includes every player, from the player who thinks that he can freeroam and disturb others rp to the newbie at his first experience shooting for no reason.

Change your mindset and maybe you will see some results in terms of fun. Noany removal of features will solve this imo, it is something more deep inside all of us.

How many years have we been talking about it's deep inside of us and everyone needs to change? It does not work that way.
If the server or the community has no whatsoever goal to achieve with the server nor the roleplay quality, we will be going nowhere, just like it has been keeping us at square one for years now, because people are too stubborn to understand that people will no change over a day to become totally different without the understanding or the guidance from above. This includes rules, scripts and high ups showing them what's right and gives them punishments for what's wrong. Because that's something the community itself need to guide and do the harsh changes. We can't play along half way and expect people to change if we do not set the rules what's wrong and right. There'll always be idiots, who come up to your superserious and interesting roleplay scenario just to fuck around because you are more or less ALLOWED to do so here. It's standard and the most classical scenario you will ever face when entering Argonath.

Just like keeping out things because it's "not Argonath"-quotes is just one of the things that kept this negative spiral. Things that benefit roleplay and the quality of the roleplay scene should be implanted, no matter how people whine over it because they think it will destroy the world, kill someones mother or entirely blew up a school in Bangladesh.

So please, quit rewrite the same phrases that is totally regressive.
And at last, this is not aimed at you personally, Markk. Not a single bit. Just letting you know.