When are people going to start ROLEPLAYING?

[Richard.]

My question is,
when are we going to roleplay and stop bad girling whenever you die because the roleplay ended in that way?
When are we going to have a roleplay without shooting any guns?
When are we going to roleplay instead of finding excuses to avoid a roleplay?

1. Not sure
2. Make guns harder to get/more expensive.
3. Enforce roleplay in a more strict way(as an admin)

[Traser]

There will be roleplay when someone has the sense of really loosing something, They will just respawn, they are not afraid for what could happen.

[Pizza4_Games]

PG/MG and OOC/IC should be implemented, give it a try I guess?

[Stivi]

There will be roleplay when someone has the sense of really loosing something, They will just respawn, they are not afraid for what could happen.

This is a valid point, imo. Maybe we can go back to "lose items on death" system?

[Traser]

This is a valid point, imo. Maybe we can go back to "lose items on death" system?

Loose money on hand, loose weed, loose items etc, then they won't kamikaze into a RP anymore.

[Acika]

Interesting topic.

Question: Is the guy entering a heli, plane, house, boat or whatever to save himself because he knows he's being hunted by group of people avoiding death(DM) or avoiding roleplay ?

[Rei]

Loose money on hand, loose weed, loose items etc, then they won't kamikaze into a RP anymore.

Stock your shit in house containers and problem solved.

not going to help anyway.

[Ivan_MC]

When are we going to have a roleplay without shooting any guns?

As I can see you guys turned this topic into " ArgonathRPG Mafias DM ".
The quoted question has little to no sense. First of all go check Gvardia, Soprano, Luciano, Araatus etc topics and see the pictures posted from the RPs. You don't see a dead body or M4/AK on every god damn picture there is. Roleplays without shooting guns happens daily, but you fail to see that because only thing you do is chase us when we are suspected ( I don't blame you for that ).

As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.

[Pizza4_Games]

Some people like to act like John Cena and fear none, where players who are obsessed roleplay actually pay attention to the people who are trying to get something done.

[Dylan]

As I can see you guys turned this topic into " ArgonathRPG Mafias DM ".
The quoted question has little to no sense. First of all go check Gvardia, Soprano, Luciano, Araatus etc topics and see the pictures posted from the RPs. You don't see a dead body or M4/AK on every god damn picture there is. Roleplays without shooting guns happens daily, but you fail to see that because only thing you do is chase us when we are suspected ( I don't blame you for that ).

As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.

I'm barely to never on police duty anyway.
All I do is spectating people so yes I see what's going on.
The screens that are posted is mostly 1 - 5% from what's exactly happening or what exactly happened.
But yes, I must say that there is sometimes a good roleplay between two groups but it mostly ends up in a shootout.

Making weapons expensive wont solve anything. The victims will bitch even more.
The server HQ dont have to change anything. It's the players that have to change it.

[Devin]

As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.

The robber was a new player and the victim was one from 2014 sadly...

[Leon.]

As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.

That won't happen, because according to an ex-manager, experienced players are responsible for the rulebreaks committed by new players, as we have a "duty" to teach them. Sure, I don't mind teaching new players, but it's kind of annoying when a player has no idea what this server is for when they first join (despite the fact that the server is clearly labelled Argonath RPG...)

As for the problem at hand, it's always going to be a problem if there is no clear distinction of things that happen inside of roleplay and outside of roleplay. Sure - you can go ahead and accuse me of being one of those people that wants to turn Argonath into "ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SRS RP SERVERS" (I'm really not lol), but there's no denying it. People take events in roleplays, such as group relations, way too personally. There are people who simply have far too much pride to allow an RP to happen with an enemy in which they are the victim. And it's kind of sad, because it really disrupts how the natural flow of RP and events should go. In my time there were people (enemies, mind you) who would simply /area my group and /q if we got anywhere near them. And there are other people who always take it soooo personally when they get kidnapped for example and are faced with a situation that they don't have much control over, then act towards the RP with a shitty attitude. And let's not forget, that in RP, nobody values their character's lives, because their is more pride to be lost by submitting to the enemy than running away from the RP opportunity and getting killed.

Aside from that, I blame the freedom we are given here, and the 'cliques' developed over time. Some type of RP rules need to be implemented and enforced, because as I've seen over the years player attitudes are not going to change, no matter how much Dylan or Devin or Gandalf wants them to. The attitude has been the same for years now. I don't know what kind of rules or how they would be enforced, but something needs to be changed. More focused is placed in personal pride, vendettas, and shooting for the sport of it than the development of characters/personalities and stories through roleplay. And in my entire time of being here I've grown pretty sick of these whole back-and-forth type wars that go on between criminal groups. "I'm attacking them because they attacked me because I attacked them because I attacked me." Oh, we need an rp excuse now?
*Rolls up on enemy.*
"Sup?"
Enemy: "I fucked your mom" *PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW*

The freedom we have been granted here is the very thing that has become toxic to the server due to player's attitudes, and the problem has never, ever gotten any better even for a little while, except maybe when the server has a lower player count. Who would've thought that the freedom Argonath has stood for throughout the ages would be the thing that tore us apart in the end? I say, either we appreciate the freedom we're given here and have fun with it while allowing others to have fun, or we start losing it. Because clearly the lot of us can't handle our freedom.

[Fuzzy]

The robber was a new player and the victim was one from 2014 sadly...

The irony

[Luke]

This reminds me of how I used to evade a traffic stop then the officer calls whole SWAT squad online...

Its you Richard Mr aimbot hacker from Paruni 

[AK47]

This reminds me of how I used to evade a traffic stop then the officer calls whole SWAT squad online...

Yeah, this is an example of why I barely play here anymore.

And another problem is the so called "freedom" here. Most experienced SAMP-players joins Argonath because they know how easily it is to obtain weapons and start shooting people.