Antivirus on Windows 10, is it really needed?

[Huntsman]

Sometimes you may think you don't need a prophylactic.
But you may use one anyway just in-case.

It's totally reliant on what you want to achieve in the long run.
Nothing is risk free and if you wish to limit risk, you can choose to use an extra pair of hands.
If you want to risk it, then go ahead.

It's totally upto your own self.
If you are going to be very careful and know what you're doing then I suppose there may not be a need.

Those who need "a guiding hand" or an anti-virus to protect them from the "YOU WON AN IPHONE" pop ups should get a MAC. These things are designed for people who lack something called common sense when it comes on what to install and what not to.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Those who need "a guiding hand" or an anti-virus to protect them from the "YOU WON AN IPHONE" pop ups should get a MAC. These things are designed for people who lack something called common sense when it comes on what to install and what not to.

Unfortunately common sense is not so common.
There is no harm in using a second party anti virus system.

To rely on windows alone is borderline silly as Windows is the epitome of malware.

[Mark]

Sometimes you may think you don't need a prophylactic.
But you may use one anyway just in-case.

It's totally reliant on what you want to achieve in the long run.
Nothing is risk free and if you wish to limit risk, you can choose to use an extra pair of hands.
If you want to risk it, then go ahead.

It's totally upto your own self.
If you are going to be very careful and know what you're doing then I suppose there may not be a need.

 

Anyway i already installed uBlock Origin which works way better than Adblock plus, windows defender ain't that bad as i first thought. I know Adwcleaner and Malwarebytes already as i used them on Windows 7 a few times because of freeware shit
Google Chrome 64 bit is good too, i have noticed that on Windows 10 it works even better. Thanks everyone.

[Teddy]

I suggest using Edge as well. It's not Internet Explorer as many believe, it's a completely new browser. It's really fast and convenient, and it provides maximum security since it uses intergrated Windows protection while you browse. If you really need that Adblocker, it's available on Edge now as well afaik.

No. Edge is shit just like Internet Explorer. As a web professional, it lacks a lot of "modern web" capability and fails to compete with any other browsers JavaScript engine, meaning sites are naturally slower.

Please don't even get me started about maximum security. The level of security it provides compared to chrome can't even be measured on the same scale.

I would highly not recommend Edge.

[PeopleKillGuns]

No. Edge is shit just like Internet Explorer. As a web professional, it lacks a lot of "modern web" capability and fails to compete with any other browsers JavaScript engine, meaning sites are naturally slower.

Please don't even get me started about maximum security. The level of security it provides compared to chrome can't even be measured on the same scale.

I would highly not recommend Edge.

Well you are comparing Edge unfairly, you can't compare a Volkswagen Golf to a Bugatti Veyron.
Edge is miles ahead of internet explored in speed, security, looks, it is actually a usable browser and for companies (one of which I had a unpleasant time working for) that mandatory use Internet Explorer will have a "culture shock" upgrading to Edge, seriously, compared to IE it's a billion times better.

Compared to Google chrome?
lol.

For a day to day user it makes no sense to use Edge over Chrome, for my mom? Bleh, she likes it, she can use it.

[Teddy]

Well you are comparing Edge unfairly, you can't compare a Volkswagen Golf to a Bugatti Veyron.
Edge is miles ahead of internet explored in speed, security, looks, it is actually a usable browser and for companies (one of which I had a unpleasant time working for) that mandatory use Internet Explorer will have a "culture shock" upgrading to Edge, seriously, compared to IE it's a billion times better.

Compared to Google chrome?
lol.

For a day to day user it makes no sense to use Edge over Chrome, for my mom? Bleh, she likes it, she can use it.

You can compare a Volkswagen Golf to a Bugatti Veyron, they're both motor vehicle transportation and they both have their perks and downfalls. You can't compare a fork to a Volkswagen Golf. They have entirely different purpose so in a logical sense comparing Internet Explorer to Edge and to Chrome is totally legitimate. That is of course assuming you are following the philosophical standard for debate and argument which you know would be logical.

You'd be surprised how many even novice users find comfort in Chrome's performance and security over Internet Explorer and Edge. Those novice users look to professionals for influence.

[Huntsman]

Well, I am happy with Edge though. It's been working well for me and works far faster than Chrome for me without being as resource intensive. I find it weird that you guys have different expierences. The only disatisfaction for me with this browser is that you can't choose the file download destination, as it automatically downloads to the C drive Downloads folder, and I don't like bloating my C drive :S

[Link9rly]

Well, I am happy with Edge though. It's been working well for me and works far faster than Chrome for me without being as resource intensive.

Doesn't mean it's not technically inferior compared to Chrome.

[Huntsman]

Doesn't mean it's not technically inferior compared to Chrome.

Well so far I haven't seen any signs of technical inferiority, other than not supporting addons.

[PeopleKillGuns]

Doesn't mean it's not technically inferior compared to Chrome.

Right, but the guy started the topic, it's not like he is wrong for using Edge

Well so far I haven't seen any signs of technical inferiority, other than not supporting addons.

I wish it gets addons soon, the firm I worked for last year is slowly transitioning away from Windows XP (yes, XP) to Windows 10 and thus far everyone has been running Internet Explorer to access the building's Intranet and the internet, the problem with Internet explorer is that it is basically unusable after you get used to Chrome, Edge at least has some functionality.

The browser is stable and usable, but that's as fat as it gets, like I said to Teddy (which backfired because it seems like he is riled up about this conversation) Edge is an okay browser but it is inferior in almost every aspect.. no, pretty much inferior everywhere, but it gets the job done. I would still rather see you use Chrome because "Google, fuck yeah" but if you like the Microsoft interface, and want to use applications made by Microsoft than use it.

I personally am caught up in the Google ecosystem and I don't use almost any MS product so it wouldn't make any sense for me to use Edge, but I can see why you would want to use it.

[Huntsman]

Right, but the guy started the topic, it's not like he is wrong for using Edge

I wish it gets addons soon, the firm I worked for last year is slowly transitioning away from Windows XP (yes, XP) to Windows 10 and thus far everyone has been running Internet Explorer to access the building's Intranet and the internet, the problem with Internet explorer is that it is basically unusable after you get used to Chrome, Edge at least has some functionality.

The browser is stable and usable, but that's as fat as it gets, like I said to Teddy (which backfired because it seems like he is riled up about this conversation) Edge is an okay browser but it is inferior in almost every aspect.. no, pretty much inferior everywhere, but it gets the job done. I would still rather see you use Chrome because "Google, fuck yeah" but if you like the Microsoft interface, and want to use applications made by Microsoft than use it.

I personally am caught up in the Google ecosystem and I don't use almost any MS product so it wouldn't make any sense for me to use Edge, but I can see why you would want to use it.

I guess that's a reasonable explanation. Maybe I like Edge so much because I love the Microsoft's ecosystem? I'd love to get a high-specs Windows Phone but I am a little broke

[Teddy]

like I said to Teddy (which backfired because it seems like he is riled up about this conversation)

I just don't like people being wrong. So, don't be wrong and no worries.

I guess that's a reasonable explanation. Maybe I like Edge so much because I love the Microsoft's ecosystem? I'd love to get a high-specs Windows Phone but I am a little broke

I don't mind the Microsoft Ecosystem, Google's is just better and far superior in nearly every aspect. It's sad to see how hard Microsoft has screwed up the last 10 years. The legacy Bill Gates left behind has been trashed. There was a point where Microsoft led the industry and now they have no industry leading products. They're busy playing catchup and trying to drive into markets already too far gone and saturated. They simply predicted the mobile era wrong and blew it.

[PeopleKillGuns]

I just like seeing other people's point of view, even if by doing it I'm in the wrong. And I went through the same phase the dude is going through.

I bought a cheapo Windows 10 laptop, I bought a xbox one, I bought a windows phone.. and let me tell you buddy..

That is quite possibly the worst idea I've had in my life, I wasted 1050€ on literal shit, I would've had more fun using the euros as fuel.

The laptop is great to run one app at a time, the best being chrome, the xbox one crashes while I play games on it and it heats up my room by like 2°C,
the phone? THE PHONE!?
Like I said, my point of view is most of the time trying to understand both parties, so I decided to try the Windows Phone ecosystem, and the lumia 640xl .. would pretty much be the perfect phone, it lasted me 3 days which of android is god damn uheard of, it was huge, rocking a shitty 720p display, had a great camera, the apps weren't a problem. But oh my god. It's the tiny things, like when you click space it some times recognizes the command as "crash the fucking app" or just little details in apps. Nothing is truly polished, everything seems rushed it made me miss my dying rooted Galaxy S4 so much that I sold the phone after a month of use.

Seriously, they made the perfect Android phone that doesn't run android.

If we are talking about "ecosystems" .. such a BS term but okay. Truly Google one is the best, not only is it the cheapest, it possibly isn't the safest, at this point I'm sure Google knows more about me than I do, but it works, I always thought apple fanboys use the phrase "it just works" as a meme but seriously, google just works.

[Teddy]

If we are talking about "ecosystems" .. such a BS term but okay. Truly Google one is the best, not only is it the cheapest, it possibly isn't the safest, at this point I'm sure Google knows more about me than I do, but it works, I always thought apple fanboys use the phrase "it just works" as a meme but seriously, google just works.

Truth be told I trust Google knowing more about me than I do any Government or any other organization. I must admit I am even a little concerned at times, like when I go to McDonalds and Google Now decides to show me the menu and then I think oh cool, I don't have to try and see over these people because my McDonalds doesn't have the menu up high like most others...

Google's business is based on search and getting information when it's needed. You can't make money on that alone so they do the only thing they can do and sell data collected from it in order to create targeted advertisements. Creepy af but eh I don't really mind.

[Huntsman]

If your laptop can't handle multi-tasking then it's your choice of hardware that's at fault, not the OS'es fault. Let me remind you that Microsoft doesn't regulate the hardware that Windows gets pre-installed to. I have my main desktop PC and a cheap, 300 EURO Packard Bell laptop with 2GB of RAM and both of them work faster with Windows 10 than on any other OS.