[Unbanned] Jeremy_Russell banned by Devin

[Jeremy.]

Your in-game name:
Jeremy_Russell

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
DM

Admin who banned you:
Devin

When you were banned:
Today I guess

Additional notes:
?

[Jeremy.]

If this is about the situation which occurred yesterday with Tock_Tock then let me explain you what actually happened. We arrived at LSCH in a convoy with several cars to get the cash from an event sponsored by Mario Soprano which Sam and Ibrahim won. In a very short time cops gathered at the parallel pavement because omfg blips and while we were trying to leave, Tock_Tock started shooting the last vehicle from the convoy several times. It wasn't sufficient for him so he kept shooting John_Forlenza(if i'm not mistaken) removing his armour for no fucking reason. We did nothing more than sitting in our vehicles yet we got shot for no apparent reason. Why I shot him back? What did you expect me to do? Roleplay with someone who's part of SAPD, rulebreaking evidently because no admins are online? Hell no, with my deepest apologies I would never do that.

Maybe I'm not the best roleplayer, though I'm always willing to do my best and encourage it but I'm fucking tired of people with childish attitude, willing to disturb anyone they see. Whoever tried roleplaying with me I attended it and I always tried to make people understand that they have to do it no matter what. You can check logs or whatever you wish my point was not deathmatching at all but I have to ask you, what did you expect from me to do? A cop doesn't go full retard and shoot a civilian for no reason, I did defend myself because admins were not online. If people approach me, trying to roleplay I do it. How do I RP with a rulebreaker? I've waited for him to ask apologies, say something regarding to it, but he kept acting normal like nothing happened. His point was pretty obvious.

If I did anything wrong, I'll admit it. I have nothing against it. Let's say I broke the rule "RP at all times" but I would like to hear what are we supposed to do in such a case. He is not a newbie and I can't really see the reason of keeping me banned for shooting him back. Let's suppose it was a "RP" scene, I had to go and have a chat with him while we got shot? I doubt it.

[Rusty]

Banning admin and whoever else from the staff team was handling this can you post version of events. 

[Devin]

Tock Tock fired two shots, both of those shots took out two of the tyres on a sultan, no shots were fired at any player by him.

Yes his behaviour is unacceptable and he was dealt with by SAPD staff for his actions after they were reported.

All of this still doesn't make it acceptable for you to then stand behind him execution style and begin shooting with no roleplay interaction what so ever, on top of that to then start hunting down and killing every cop at pershing square too. I fail to see the logic behind this "plan" where a group of criminals begin a shootout infront of state buildings such as City Hall and the police department because a cop shot their tyre out. You call it defending yourself when you weren't even the victim, the only thing that was shot was two car tyres.

The only chatlog I see from you is when you asked if he is retarded after shooting at the sultan.

[Jeremy.]

Tock Tock fired two shots, both of those shots took out two of the tyres on a sultan, no shots were fired at any player by him.

That's not true, someone got shot and if you say you checked the logs, it should be easy for you to realize what actually happened by reading the reaction of other players. Anyway I'm not going to debate this because whoever was there witnessed it and I have no reason to lie. Hence I'm sorry for not involving any roleplay to the scene and opening fire instantly but I still doubt how this could be roleplayed. It will not happen again.

[Devin]

I've watched a video of the entire situation from before tock tock had even shot until the point you killed all of the cops in a giant shootout.

[Jeremy.]

[23:42:48] ***[1144] John_Lucchese(3): dafuq was that

[23:43:04] ***[1144] Jeremy_Russell(15): Joh, did he shot you?

[23:43:07] That player is not a suspect.

[23:43:07] {DDFF33}[Help Chat] Mario_Soprano(27):{FFFFFF} yes ????

[23:43:08] Solis(13) says: Woah, the fuck.

[23:43:08] That player is not a suspect.

[23:43:09] {DDFF33}[Help Chat] John_Collin(16):{FFFFFF} HE can

[23:43:09] [EES]vaughn(42) says: stop[

[23:43:10] ***[1144] Ahmad_Luciano(12): Again

[23:43:10] ***[1144] Kenji_Gvardia(0): he is shooting who

[23:43:11] ***[1144] John_Forlenza(20): Yup

[23:43:13] You have opened a report ticket (#2) on Tock_Tock(50)

[23:43:15] John_Lucchese(3) says: What the fuck is wrong with you?

[23:43:15] {DDFF33}[Help Chat] Jonzey(5):{FFFFFF} how?

[23:43:16] Ahmad_Luciano(12) says: Tock

[23:43:17] Jeremy_Russell(15) says: Are you retarded?

[23:43:19] Solis(13) says: Get back to where you were.

[23:43:24] Ahmad_Luciano(12) says: Why are you shooting at him?

[23:43:26] {FFFF00}Jim_Smalls{FFFFFF}: (14) is lustig hubbe irl brother?

[23:43:26] Kenji_Gvardia(0) shouts: You fucking serious?!!

[23:43:27] Tock_Tock(50) says (megaphone): EVERYONE.

[23:43:27] Ahmad_Luciano(12) says: You mad?

[23:43:30] Gilgamesh_Araatus(7) notices Kenji.

[23:43:35] Tock_Tock(50) says (megaphone): Keep the distance.

[23:43:37] Solis(13) says: Everyone, disperse.

[23:43:39] Tarion_Smith(17) says (radio): Officer circled.

[23:43:40] No members of staff online but Sauron is always watching.

[23:43:41] ***[1144] John_Lucchese(3): il just report him

[23:43:43] Solis(13) shakes his pepper spray.

[23:43:44] {FFFFFF}Jeremy_Russell{FFFFFF}: (15) oh wait no admins on

[23:43:45] Ahmad_Luciano(12) spits at the cruiser.

[23:43:46] [EES]vaughn(42) says (radio): i need back up

[23:43:47] {DDFF33}[Help Chat] Jonzey(5):{FFFFFF} how?

[23:43:50] ***[1144] John_Forlenza(20): same

[23:43:53] Desmond_Callaghan(6) has logged into the server from France.

[23:43:56] Tarion_Smith(17) says (radio): Respond as fast as you can

[23:43:57] ***[1144] John_Forlenza(20): no admins

[23:43:58] ***[1144] John_Forlenza(20): ffs

[23:43:58] ***[1144] John_Forlenza(20): ffs

[23:44:03] {DDFF33}[Help Chat] Jonzey(5):{FFFFFF} because it loooks like its not working

[23:44:04] Solis(13) turns on the MDC.

[23:44:06] ***[1144] Kenji_Gvardia(0): lol

[23:44:07] ***[1144] Sam_Gvardia(10): what happened i was af

[23:44:08] ***[1144] Sam_Gvardia(10): what happened i was afk

[23:44:14] ***[1144] John_Lucchese(3): tock randomly shoot at us

[23:44:19] ***[1144] Sam_Gvardia(10): who

[23:44:20] {409FFF}Darren_Wilson{FFFFFF}: (9) fucking lovely

[23:44:22] ***[1144] John_Lucchese(3): and Tock

[23:44:25] Tock_Tock(50) says: Spread out.

[23:44:27] ***[1144] John_Lucchese(3): And he keeps on doin it

Again, why would I lie?

[Devin]

I have watched the video multiple times which shows the two wheels of the sultan being shot so unless he has some odd mods on his game I don't know how he would have been shot.
Either way, the way you handled the situation is far from ideal. If anything you could have left him with a warning, left the area and gone after him a little while later when he was more isolated and away from the police department in the middle of the busiest area in the server.

[Jeremy.]

I'm aware of what I've done and I shouldn't act like that. The only reason I did this it was because no admins were online but that doesn't give me the right to break the rules myself. I'm sorry.

[Devin]

Unbanned.