Getting Los Santos more crowded

[TheGreasyChopper]

 The problem is in people with the "Hey nice RPing with you!" "nice RP!" attitude. You're here to Roleplay so you do it at all times.

Two big roleplays every week is not what happens in a roleplay server.

Define "big roleplay" and "small roleplay", please. RP is RP it's not big, small, long or short. If you don't get enough RP in Los Santos then maybe you should check out the "Projects"

[Tiny]

I'm not interested in those projects, gang roleplay is what I've been doing for the past 2-3 years and that's not even the case here.

You don't get the point, you can now go in-game and enjoy the roleplay opportunities with 20 players online.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 I don't get the point yeah, what's gonna change if we have more players? How is that gonna bring more opportunities? As for gang roleplay and the Projects, I think you fail to realize that you can do that "gang roleplay" outside of LS too. When was the last time Argonath had a gang based in Blueberry or in El Quebrados? Or in any other place than LS for that matter? You gotta bring change and unique opportunities, doing what you've done for the past 2-3 years obviously doesn't work out, so it's all up to you.

[FARQ3X]

I'm not interested in those projects, gang roleplay is what I've been doing for the past 2-3 years and that's not even the case here.

You don't get the point, you can now go in-game and enjoy the roleplay opportunities with 20 players online.

I feel your pain but if we unite [Be it Enemy or ally] factions and encourage RP in between them instead of spacing each other out due to rasons like: We dont like them, We dont RP fit with them, We don't wanna RP with them or something then we can achieve it with 30 players.

[Tiny]

I don't get the point yeah, what's gonna change if we have more players? How is that gonna bring more opportunities? As for gang roleplay and the Projects, I think you fail to realize that you can do that "gang roleplay" outside of LS too. When was the last time Argonath had a gang based in Blueberry or in El Quebrados? Or in any other place than LS for that matter? You gotta bring change and unique opportunities, doing what you've done for the past 2-3 years obviously doesn't work out, so it's all up to you.

Funny thing that I told you I have no issue to move out of LS if you decide to gather up somewhere, even in a city I dislike like San Fierro. What I've done for the past 2-3 years has worked and I can tell you gang roleplay has been the most vital part of getting Argonath improved for a while. But I won't move to El Quebrados and roleplay with the desert, in LS I have more opportunities. And it's not that your project has completely solved the issue, so don't point a finger at groups that have been in Los Santos.

[Salmonella]

Some people like crowded cities, some people like empty cities. Others like the countryside and again others like the quiet forests.

There's even some people that like a low playercount. I'm sure most of us would like to see more players, but even if we'd all RP in Los Santos, I don't believe it'd happen.

[Tiny]

Some people like crowded cities, some people like empty cities. Others like the countryside and again others like the quiet forests.

Los Santos - Flint County - Red County.  More than enough to fit the likes of everyone.

even if we'd all RP in Los Santos, I don't believe it'd happen.

It would definitely happen. If we're so distanced as a community, not because of the distance on the map, but because of the lack of interaction, not many will be interested to come online. Why? Because they'd need to come and work on fixing the server instead of enjoying their time being there, and trust me there aren't too many people who care anymore. And with such replies given to an idea that will only bring good to the server, I'm sure the ones trying currently will also leave as well.

Watch me closing 18th and Crips slowly dying because they'll have no interesting roleplay around them, have a FLA vs SAPD and some other small projects in LV and SF.

[Stivi]

I'd rather stop playing if we limit ourselves to only LS. I'm not that active, or rather wasn't that active ( cuz now im banned ), and I would spend like 15-20 minutes IG. Now I have more free time and I'll certainly play more, maybe even leave SF once in a while. But when I was actively playing, I'd stay in 'Fierro - even alone. I tend to avoid crowded places like LSCH/LSPD, or Idlewood/Willowfield ( I lag there ). And I like SF better.

You raise a valid problem, players don't interact with each others that much. And that's the reason we don't have automated scripts and such. And that's the reason we have a low players count. Back when Gvardia was fighting Soprano and vice versa, we'd reach 50players, pre-RS5.2. Players will indeed log in to interact with others, be that just shooting. It's part of the game, it's fun - to some extent, and it brings groups of people together.  Having only one city won't solve this. I like SF better, you like LS, if we pick one city, one of us will stop playing.

And don't bring me the LSRP arguments, LSRP has 500 players - aiming for 1000. I'm not part of that community, but they seem to have many automated scripts, and having that many players will of course bring interaction. Unless they are all trucking.

[TheGreasyChopper]

Watch me closing 18th and Crips slowly dying because they'll have no interesting roleplay around them, have a FLA vs SAPD and some other small projects in LV and SF.

How come those other "small projects" and non-LS groups survive and provide interesting roleplay around them? Don't mean to be an asshole, but you gotta come out of your comfort zone every now and then. I'm sure people from outside LS come and visit you and interact with the gangs, but do you do the same? You claim you have more opportunities in LS, then why don't you use them? I know it's hard to lead a group that is based on Roleplay and it's hard to bring attention to it but you gotta adapt, man. Think outside the borders. How do you propose we get Santos more crowded? Border off any exists? Remove all assets outside of it? Nah, you gotta make people return to Los Santos or wherever you want to be centered. It won't work if we just decide we want to be based in one area.

[Devin]

Let people be where they want to be around the map, it's quite simple. If they want to be in LS they would be, if they want to be elsewhere they will be.

[Jingle]

Watch me closing 18th and Crips slowly dying because they'll have no interesting roleplay around them, have a FLA vs SAPD and some other small projects in LV and SF.

We form our own 'interesting roleplay' by being who we are. Our longevity as a group is not influenced by you or anyone else for that matter. You could argue differently, but the fact remains. You are here right now and that's cool, but if you decide to leave, that's your decision and it won't affect us in any way. Hope you understand your faux pax and won't go for such silliness again.


As for moving everyone to one place. It's great you want to bring more value to the server and this may sound like a good start, except it isn't. The choice about which city to install yourself in is completely subjective unless everyone is of a single mind (read: impossible). On one hand, there's groups like Gvardia (respect) that love San Fierro and would never leave it. On the other, there are people in Los Santos, Flint County and other areas that feel the same. It won't matter which city you choose, there will always be those against such a restriction.

This simply isn't your choice to make, and you have to understand it regardless of how it adds to your cognitive dissonance. Even if you manage to convince every single player on the server (won't happen) to leave their shit and come live in Los Santos, nothing of importance will occur. Having that one group closer in coordinates makes no difference. Having the streets crowded just for the sake of it also seems like a 180.

You don't have to take my advice, but what I would suggest is to keep providing benefit to the server through your group. We appreciate your presence and wouldn't like to part with it too soon.

[McGarrett]

Imagine that you're a new player to a roleplay server. You see that this server got 50 players on, so you're at some point destined to meet someone. However, if the server is split up into such a large map, then it is difficult to interact with people due to the fact that the map is so big and all the players are scattered all over it. If the map is smaller, you have a bigger chance of interaction. That will make players stay. Just imagine going on a server with 0 players, then you will not meet anyone no matter what. The same feeling you get when joining a populated server, but with zero chance of interaction.

#SqueezeArgonath2gether

[Ivan_Dzeba]

Imagine that you're a new player to a roleplay server. You see that this server got 50 players on, so you're at some point destined to meet someone. However, if the server is split up into such a large map, then it is difficult to interact with people due to the fact that the map is so big and all the players are scattered all over it. If the map is smaller, you have a bigger chance of interaction. That will make players stay. Just imagine going on a server with 0 players, then you will not meet anyone no matter what. The same feeling you get when joining a populated server, but with zero chance of interaction.

#SqueezeArgonath2gether

Everything I wanted to say has been said here. We also need automated scripts, like Stivi said.

Ofcourse, I am 100 percent for this, but I know people are stubborn and persistent, so there is a really,really,really low chance that every player in the server will agree for this, so yeah, not happening, sadly.

#SqueezeArgonath2gether

[Leon.]

Why do I get the feeling this is some LSRP-inspired idea in disguise?

#Letpeopledowhateverthehelltheywant

[McGarrett]

Oh give me a fucking rest. Because people want a server more crowded doesn't mean it's LSRP. This is Argonath's biggest problem so far that everyone is so paranoid to see that anything might be similar to LSRP. Well guess what /opentoll