UK EU Referendum

[Julio.]

Total outgoings to the EU equate to more like £6.5 billion, not £18 billion.

It's this simple to the EU: Meet the demands of the UK's people, or lose trade with 65million people.

The proportion of total exports to the EU was 48 per cent in April 2016.

Our EU exports totalled £12 billion in a single month. Want to multiply that up mate?

Most of the "richest" countries outside of the EU are either huge, or have oil/diamonds or some other rare commodity. About all we have is prime weather/soil conditions for growing potatoes.

[Mikal]

Total outgoings to the EU equate to more like £6.5 billion, not £18 billion.

As I said, that's after re-baits and such, but we wouldn't need a re-bait, because we could straight up use the £18billion on what WE want.

Our EU exports totalled £12 billion in a single month. Want to multiply that up mate?

What is your point?

Most of the "richest" countries outside of the EU are either huge, or have oil/diamonds or some other rare commodity. About all we have is prime weather/soil conditions for growing potatoes.

Well that's good for us! We have plenty of oil in the North Sea, we have started fracking, and we have started searching for it down at the Falklands, I guess we'll be rich in no time.

[Julio.]

As I said, that's after re-baits and such, but we wouldn't need a re-bait, because we could straight up use the £18billion on what WE want.
What is your point?
Well that's good for us! We have plenty of oil in the North Sea, we have started fracking, and we have started searching for it down at the Falklands, I guess we'll be rich in no time.

Plenty of oil... lol.

£18 billion on what we want? What part of £6.5 billion do you not understand? We won't gain £18 billion from leaving the EU, we'll gain £6.5 billion... but the impact on our economy is totally unpredictable.

[Mikal]

Plenty of oil... lol.

£18 billion on what we want? What part of £6.5 billion do you not understand? We won't gain £18 billion from leaving the EU, we'll gain £6.5 billion... but the impact on our economy is totally unpredictable.

We put 18billion into the EU, after trade and re-baits we end up with putting 6.5billion in, we won't need any of that as the 18billion won't be given to the EU, it can be directly used on what we want...

Do you not understand? And back to the BBC news article which you completely ignored.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36596060

[Julio.]

We put 18billion into the EU, after trade and re-baits we end up with putting 6.5billion in, we won't need any of that as the 18billion won't be given to the EU, it can be directly used on what we want...

Do you not understand? And back to the BBC news article which you completely ignored.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36596060

Do the maths...

After the INSTANT £5billion rebate we get, the outgoings are £13 billion, so by your argument we would get £13 billion back to direct at purely what we want.  Not £18 billion. Granted, the further £6.5 billion may not be spent as we would have done it, but it's spent within the UK nonetheless (not taking into account even without the EU we have a mandatory foreign aid output).

I ignored it because that is one mans opinion, not policy, not an official agreement. No point me even responding to that mate.

I'm bored of this anyhow mate. Let's just put our ticks in the respective boxes and see what the majority say tomorrow.

[Luke]

Okay.

Last night watching it I saw that stupid mayor of London talking out of his asscrack.
He was on about 7/7 and how good it was to be in the EU.

So basicly, he said during 7/7 when the planners where caught up with and jailed all but one escaped. He fled to a EU country and began life there only to be caught up by British Authorites they brang him back and sentenced him. Brilliant. He then went on to say "All thanks to us being in the EU we caught up with him"

Right now.

If we wasn't part of the EU 7/7 wouldn't never have happened? Cos he wouldn't have been able to come over here in the first place.

Sorry im one for prevention rather then cure.

Ones who vote in haven't been to the great south of London im afraid, come down here im pretty sure you'd vote out more then anything.

[Julio.]

Okay.

Last night watching it I saw that stupid mayor of London talking out of his asscrack.
He was on about 7/7 and how good it was to be in the EU.

So basicly, he said during 7/7 when the planners where caught up with and jailed all but one escaped. He fled to a EU country and began life there only to be caught up by British Authorites they brang him back and sentenced him. Brilliant. He then went on to say "All thanks to us being in the EU we caught up with him"

Right now.

If we wasn't part of the EU 7/7 wouldn't never have happened? Cos he wouldn't have been able to come over here in the first place.

Sorry im one for prevention rather then cure.

Ones who vote in haven't been to the great south of London im afraid, come down here im pretty sure you'd vote out more then anything.

You're the one speaking out of your ass mate.

Three of the bombers were born in the UK, one was born in Jamaica, what the hell has that got to do with the EU? Absolutely nothing. Zip. Nada. Check the four profiles below if you don't believe me.

At least Mikal was giving logical reasoning and a thought out argument...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasib_Hussain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germaine_Lindsay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shehzad_Tanweer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Sidique_Khan

They weren't European migrants, 3 of the 4 were British nationals, goddamn, at least check the facts before you post mindless drivel...

[Mikal]

The un-elected Jean-Claude Juncker has now jumped on the scaremongering and threatening of British people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36599300

In regards to what Lawrence said, wether the terrorists of 7/7 were influenced by the EU or not, the EU is still a big threat to the UK in terms of security, look how many 'refugees' are within the EU now, all of them have unknown and untraceable history, look at the attacks in France and Belgium, those attacks were influenced by EU free movement, they would have had a much harder time doing what they did if the countries involved were not in the EU, and with the UK being in, the doors are wide open to people who do wish to commit terrorism here, that is one thing that I think Remain seriously cannot deny.

I'm really surprised there hasn't been a major attack in the UK so far (thanks to our security services), lets hope it stays that way but with EU free movement I seriously doubt it will.

[Julio.]

The terrorists have not just attacked individual countries. See it from the perspective that they've attacked Europe. How does not standing united against them help the cause?

Running away from a problem doesn't solve it!

[Mikal]

The terrorists have not just attacked individual countries. See it from the perspective that they've attacked Europe. How does not standing united against them help the cause?

Running away from a problem doesn't solve it!

It isn't running anyway from them, it's closing the door to them in order to secure the British public, I'd rather attacks not happen at all, but when they do, I'd rather them be somewhere in Europe than in the country which my family are in.

It is better to be safe than sorry.

[Julio.]

I used to think that, and I know what you're saying on that particular point, it makes perfect sense.

My mind changed when my best friend from when I was like, 4, was killed simply because he was an Englishman holidaying in Tunisia about 12 months ago during the attack on a holiday resort.

Somewhat changes your perspective. He'd have been there whether we were in or out of the EU. Better to stand united against threats than split and hope they don't come bashing on our door.

[Ben.]

I will be voting to remain in.
It's my opinion that the choice should not have been given to us to start with - Most voters (including myself) will not fully understand the implications of leaving (or staying) in the EU. As I am no economic expert, I will be voting to remain in our present situation.

There's been dirty, underhand tactics applied on both fronts - Misquoting celebrities and quoting massively inflated figures spring to mind.

If we wasn't part of the EU 7/7 wouldn't never have happened? Cos he wouldn't have been able to come over here in the first place.

[Hevar.]

If UK is out of europe? Does that mean people in Europe must apply for visum to visit UK? just like USA or? haha im confused

[Julio.]

If UK is out of europe? Does that mean people in Europe must apply for visum to visit UK? just like USA or? haha im confused

Essentially, yep. Plus a lot of experts believe that it could be the crumbling point of the EU, leading to eventual breakup.

[Mikal]

If UK is out of europe? Does that mean people in Europe must apply for visum to visit UK? just like USA or? haha im confused

Yes