UK EU Referendum

[Sweeper]

In fact, The value of the pound actually went up in anticipation of the referendum vote because most investors thought remain would succeed.

That's the thing. I knew they wouldn't.

[Cofiliano]

The EU is flawed and in today's era absolutely useless. When it was created, sure there was a purpose and a need however such need has diminished. The rest of the EU needs to actually develop a plan now to dissolve the EU gracefully without causing mass panic with the markets.

The EU nas the same need as it has when it was created, even more then it had back then. The small european countries has to stick together or else they'll get swallowed by the economic tigers on the global level, that didn't really exist back in that period(as economic tigers)

The problem is, that it needs to be exactly what it was back when it was created as the EEC(European Economic Community), without the political and specially without the heavy Brussels birocracy part that's the biggest problems everyone have with, when it comes to EU(main reason Brexit leaders pointed out for their opinion).


I'll take my country as an example, Serbia is the candidate for joining the EU(it was suppose to happen until 2020 for sure, but now who knows), and even tho most of our export goes to EU countries, and it was mostly USA/German/Italian firms investing in Serbia since our path to EU, China, Russia, and Arab countries has massive projects of investing in Serbia last 2-3 years and specially in the next 10 years, not only taking the position of EU countries when it comes to investing, yet investing in huge projects that EU countries never really wanted to 'risk' when it comes to Serbia.

Serbia as a candidate has the benefits from the united market with EU on one hand(SAP agreement), yet it has a non-custom trade agreement with Russia for decades now(the only country in Europe to have such a thing), which will have to be canceled once Serbia joins the EU.(Because you can't be a member of the EU, and have non-custom trade with Russia in teh same time)

So investing in Serbia at the moment, is highly recommended for big global tigers, as they can export cheaper not only into the EU market, yet on Russian market as well. Plus Serbia is one of the rare fully stable countries in the whole region, so its a perfect place for a base of China's/Arab/Russian capital in Europe.

But the point is, EU countries are losing their economic influences in Serbia, and that means losing political influences as well, and that again means losing influence on Balkan, since Serbia is the biggest and central country of Balkan, if EU collapse, that influence is doomed, and Germany/Italy/France and the rest of them, are gonna lose a big market just next doors to them, which they cant allow to happen.

Because all of this EU will prevail, it just wont be an organization it was til now.

[Stivi]

its funny because EURO ain't played every year stivi

I know right. Uneducated brexiters.

[Teddy]

What would benefit any country struggling with investors is better things to invest in; not joining a glorified club house shit fest. I get the EU does bring some benefits but at what cost? The cost weighs down on the larger countries to essentially carry these smaller counties. When what should be happening is focusing on growth by investing in higher education. More smarter people, better businesses and products, more interest from investors and thus more investments for growth. I may not be entirely informed with your counties case; but a majority of the poorer counties suffer from the same problem: not enough higher education.

The EU may provide the benefit of money but don't forget: that money comes from somewhere and affects someone else. Money isn't just spawned... well actually it is sort of but that also ruins economies if you create too much if it.

[Julio.]

I thought the articles about people voting leave as a "protest" vote because they thought we' never actually leave were fake... turns out at least three people I know did it and regretted it 

I'm there thinking "that's not how voting is meant to work guys."

[Julio.]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-cornwall-issues-plea-for-funding-protection-after-county-overwhelmingly-votes-in-favour-of-a7101311.html

Funny, voting to leave then begging for funding. I don't think that's how it works somehow.

[Mikal]

Funny, voting to leave then begging for funding. I don't think that's how it works somehow.

When everyone in the UK is able to unite and solve this mess instead of throwing stones at eachother maybe we'll get back on track.

[Teddy]

When everyone in the UK is able to unite and solve this mess instead of throwing stones at eachother maybe we'll get back on track.

Obviously that isn't going to happen.

[Julio.]

When everyone in the UK is able to unite and solve this mess instead of throwing stones at each other maybe we'll get back on track.

Well, when it's been announced that in fact, the UK won't have sole control of its borders, the NHS won't get £350 million a week, and as a result of the currency devaluation the country has lost more money than the EU has cost us for many years, it makes a bit of a perspective change doesn't it?

Still don't get why you, being Welsh, voted out. English citizens are the ones paying for the EU, Welsh citizens actually get a net benefit of approximately £79 a head from being in the EU.

The Welsh overall contribution was approximately £414 million, and it benefited from £658 million of EU funding...

[Teddy]

annnd the carnage in the markets and value of the pound continues

[Julio.]

The price of gold went up rather nicely post-referendum... shame that's not benefiting the UK...

[Mikal]

We should completely scrap our stupidly huge foreign aid budget and use the money to repair the damage (I say this as a leave voter) that leaving the EU has done.

[[Rstar]Razor]

To all the people saying it was a bad call to leave the the EU - The EU is all about fattening German bank accounts.  Period.

Just take this example - Portugal joined the EU and got millions from that, but those millions came at a great price. The UE basically demanded that we reduced our industry. Less fishing, less cork production in Alentejo, the list goes on and on. What was the result of that?  Debt, debt, fucking DEBT. Then came on FMI with it's crippling austerity to pay the crazy and wildly variable interest on the money they gave us to "help" get out of a hole they basically made us dig.

So yeah, even with everything everyone says about damages to the economy.  Anything is better than to bow down to this kind of crap, if there was a referendum in Portugal tomorrow about leaving or staying in the EU, my vote would definitely be YES!

[Julio.]

We should completely scrap our stupidly huge foreign aid budget and use the money to repair the damage (I say this as a leave voter) that leaving the EU has done.

Yeah I'd agree. Whilst the future of your own country is uncertain then you can't be running it as a charity. If we're gonna do this, then we may as well go all in and protect our own interests first.

[AK47]

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