Removal of $500 penalty for LCPD / FBI / NOOSE

[about10pandas]

If it can be scripted "ONLY" for trainings, I Support
But it still can be abused

[Joey]

You can train at PD instead of somewhere else, and avoid killing ur partner in training and use the free /heal whenever one gets to low hp.

[Huntsman]

VC:MP and IV:MP are different servers with different scripts. We for one do not have any body armor in total, and noone can see your health neither. I believe in SA:MP and VC:MP you are able to see each others health. This means you can see whenever you have to stop and when not. We do not have such things.

Say for example a cadet has to find the 'special' spot (yes, we have just one spot you can hit in IV:MP) but cannot find it, they should keep trying untill it gets hit. Makes you loose -10 health. Not a good arguement for the idea, true.

However, we came to training lag shooting now. How should a cadet know that he hit the instructor when he is running? You cannot see how much health he has left..

As said, you cannot compare IV:MP to VC:MP.

I used to play IVMP before and never thought the sync was THAT bad.. Dont you guys coder switching clients?

[Andreh.]

Great idea chief  support

[Hernandez]

You can train at PD instead of somewhere else, and avoid killing ur partner in training and use the free /heal whenever one gets to low hp.

You won't be able to re-/heal unless after 8minutes, So that's completely useless + Shooting training shouldn't be performed in a public place.
Let me give you an example of shooting training:

Spoiler for Hiden:

As you can see, 3vs3 where there is no /heal or anything except /resetspawn, Also no hp bar in the client to boost the player's communication and help not turning the shooting into a death combat.

For those who are PROs and don't need this feature and who are mostly criminals and never been cops: The shooting training and which ends by deaths, Been used since the launch of the LCPD and they never stopped using it, so we don't need to complain about something that ve been decided since 2010 and by more experienced people.

[superh2o]

So what you cant change it cuz it's set in stone?

You are trying to tell me criminals,  are more trained then ppl who do training on regular basis?

 Use of EMS idea costs like nothing as you can give refunds as medic, what the medic gets can be like 20$ per heal, in end costing nothing compared to current duel till death - 500 system.

Fine you cant get a official EMS member  to heal get a random player who is willing to do it.

You are given so much script support, with reasons that are valid and i agree that support is needed for some things, but here you have a option that can cost nothing or a minor amount, yet you are all against it as that option demands some changes....

[Hernandez]

Fine you cant get a official EMS member  to heal get a random player who is willing to do it.

Good idea, Let's call some random players to come watch our trainings which are classed as secret stuffs and give them some popcorn for way more comfortable entertainment.

You are trying to tell me criminals,  are more trained then ppl who do training on regular basis?

I am not, But it's you who acting like PROs who don't fear anything and finding easy solutions for every problem.

Simply don't try to compare yourselves by law enforcement, It's much way different, nothing similair.

[superh2o]

Ok, you bested me, you solid arguments why im wrong cant be denied.

Also on subject of disclosure i only shared, Lucchese training made by simple and practical people who invested there money,  effort and time to make a way for minimal guns healing expenses and found a way to spend as little as they can.

You are spoiled by free things so much you lost any respect for moderation, your chief suggested the idea and problem behind it i only came forth with the system tgat i know works and is tried and tested.

Call me a smart ass all you want, i came with good will to help.

On last note after the last note after this i will ignote this topic, combat simulations are just that a simulation of a gun fight, a gun dosnt know who is using  it, i can be a cop criminal or a banan, if you learn to move and shoot you learn, if no well a shame, a fire fight is same for all so i will compare what ever i like if its has a comon attribute to  compare.

[Senate]

The $500 penalty will absolutely stay, as with it removed freecops (and ranked ones) will be spraying bullets without a care in the world. It is called a penalty for a reason, those with the responsibility to handle weapons/firearms in the name of the state should take proper care not to kill other civilians and officers. With that said one thing I never see trained (official or freecop) is crossfire. Too often I see cops running into the path of another officers automatic shotgun and taking damage and/or death. Staying out of the line of fire needs to be observed by both the shooter and others involved. Suspects running circles around cops in order to get them to shoot each other is another move I've observed which can easily be thwarted with a little patience.

As to the training side of things obviously $500 per death can add up rather quickly during even a short training session (as we observed the other day, thank you for allowing me to participate in your training  ). My suggestion is to add a few "safe zones" where the $500 penalty will not apply. NOoSe HQ and Leftwood PD come to mind, Leftwood has a nice large and open parking lot which would be good for training. Something like 2-3x the radius of megaphone range should cover the area from the center of the blip. The script should support this as it would work similar to the range check done when attempting to harvest in front of cops.

Does this seem like a reasonable solution?

[James Conway]

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What about colony island?

[Hernandez]

Completely suppprted.

[Younes]

Why keep the fine for freecops too? Since they get training now, it should be fine.

Agreed. Freecops no longer have that issue, but in case someone kills a fireman, taxi, or even an admin thinking he's a suspect, he should get a fancy red message to inform him what he's done wasn't correct.

Supported!

[Advik]

Does this seem like a reasonable solution?

Yes, it does. For training, providing a suitable area, with no charges is a good suggestion. Supported.

[Cyclone]

More like, if you hurt innocent civillians, including EMS, Firemans, mechanics, taxi drivers, hookers and other people except LCPD, FBI and NOOSE, you get 500$-, but when you kill officers you don't get 500$-, tho this can be abused somehow.
SUPPORTED

[Commander_Cj]

Does this seem like a reasonable solution?

Best Solution Ever...