taser usage clarification

[Jeremy.]

[20:48:13] JoshThePenguin: (1) Who says we can't shoot an armed suspect with a taser, you weren't shooting when I shot
[20:48:16] JoshThePenguin: (1) Be happy I hit your vest

Of course you cannot do it. It is against the server rules. Even if he is holding a weapon and not using it.

[21:01:18] PM from JoshThePenguin(11): Besides that, we're permitted to tase anyone who holds a gun or whatever.

@JoshThePenguin

[Arslan]

Well, then it's an SAPD matter, not an Administrative matter, right?

Which in other words means tough luck Jeremy, deal with it. Can't do nothing.

[Jeremy.]

I love how you bitch on forum for anything that happens to you. Is this the way you have found justification? Suck it up and deal with it.

Who is "bitching" lil Mario boi? When a rule is pretty clear stated and the admin which took part of the scenario claims such a rule doesnt exist I'm free to open any kind of topic if it's not going against the rules. As far as I didn't break any forum rule and you have nothing constructive to say I advise you to return your cave and let the big guys do their talking, bye bye.

And to add, I haven't been punished, lucky me.

[Darty]

Well, then it's an SAPD matter, not an Administrative matter, right?

This.

I love how you bitch on forum for anything that happens to you. Is this the way you have found justification? Suck it up and deal with it.

Who is "bitching" lil Mario boi? When a rule is pretty clear stated and the admin which took part of the scenario claims such a rule doesnt exist I'm free to open any kind of topic if it's not going against the rules. As far as I didn't break any rule and you have nothing constructive to say I advise you to return your cave and let the big guys do their talking, bye bye.

And to add, I haven't been punished, lucky me.

You know, the fact that you create a topic, every time you don't like something, shows that your bitching, no offense. I got a lot of shit that I can create a topic about, but I don't, why? No one wants a shitstorm. Take it to PM or something with the respective person. Thank you.

[Bruce.]

CAN WE NOT TURN EVERY TOPIC INTO SOME WEIRD ARGUMENT??? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Bruce.]

Well, then it's an SAPD matter, not an Administrative matter, right?

Well as it wasn't an active shootout it indeed wasn't something admin should handle. But I really do find this semi-admin semi-sapd situation. Anyway, not me to decide of that. Anyway I'll stop here with this topic as I already explained everything that I know regarding usage of taser.

[Jeremy.]

The only ones which are creating "shitstorm" are two of you, I don't see anyone else doing it. Rest of people which posted been respectful and had a valid point. Now take your negativism away, thanks.

[Jeremy.]

I honestly advice returning those sapd regulations which got hidden, to be made publicly in order to avoid such issues.

[Khm]

This is a clarification topic, if you have a problem with an administration you can go ahead and report him. This is not a place to be showing how much you hate eachother aswell, meaning cease the fight.

[Whiteman]

If you ever wonder why the playerbase is decreasing, this might be one of the reasons.

I saw a WS leader get kicked by moderators for using capslock to say "hi" to me on main chat the other day. So beware, things got strict around Argonath.

Also, the reason why you cannot tase someone holding a gun is the fact that if the person gets tased, his/her muscles will result in strong involuntary contractions as 50,000 volts run through you and you might end up killing yourself with the gun. The gun might go off as you get tased, that's why. @SAPD Public Affairs should take measures against the officer or let him re-do the academy.

[DinoKid23]

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114739.msg1803910#msg1803910

i was the man who suggested taser and as the man who suggested taser i do not approve of this behavior from joshthepenguin because its un rp to tase a suspect with gun because they might spazz out and shoot, leading to danger. it is an IC matter though so u may submit ia report which will probably get trashed

[Kacper_Gorski]

There was no server rule broken, but a SAPD one... this should be investigated by SAPD IA not admins, as no server rule was broken

[Sawyer]

For those of you who are sick of watching this mess over and over again, here's a quick summary of what's meant to be taught here, in order to avoid future in-game or forum differences.

Taser is meant to be used for suspects who fail to comply or simply resist in surrendering.

This.

There was no server rule broken, but a SAPD one... this should be investigated by SAPD IA not admins, as no server rule was broken

And this.

I'm out.

[Vaeldious]

I saw a WS leader get kicked by moderators for using capslock to say "hi" to me on main chat the other day. So beware, things got strict around Argonath.

You conveniently left out the part about using racial slurs, unnecessary spam, and ignoring the in-chat warning to cease such things in /p. Additionally, there was a report being handled about said [WS] leader's DeathMatching going on, in which he decided to start insulting and provoking, all which happened after chaotic circumstances and order was being restored to the server.

[Stivi]

Also, the reason why you cannot tase someone holding a gun is the fact that if the person gets tased, his/her muscles will result in strong involuntary contractions as 50,000 volts run through you and you might end up killing yourself with the gun. The gun might go off as you get tased, that's why. @SAPD Public Affairs should take measures against the officer or let him re-do the academy.

This is exactly why that server rule was implemented, iirc. You may not use the taser on someone holding a weapon, for reasons stated above. If that's not the rule, then it should be changed.

You conveniently left out the part about using racial slurs

There was this guy who was totally fine by Hitler having killed my people, and was actually happy about it, he also said a bunch of other shit but got warned and just that. This guy says hi and gets kicked. But that's for another topic, don't you think?