Roleplay direction of the server

[Andeey]

Well, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.

Not sure who you have asked or who told you that we don't handle staff&player reports on the forums, We have prioritised them since the new year, They are all answered and handled, I've looked through the report log and you haven't seem to have ever sent one so i'd appreciate if you atleast try to report misdoing instead of shitting on the system, Since we cannot handle your reports if we do not know about them.

Your opinions are welcomed also, The only reason you will get banned is if you personally attack the person you're talking to, As in threaten them and insult them.

If you have ideas or problems send in your reports, or Forum PM a HQ member.

[Bennzy]

Well, the thing is, we can't say anything to HQ(SEn Admins too) otherwise we'll end up in unban section. Yesterday a group came to rp with me and someone names with "V" came and hit me, i was on 1HP, it wasnt a accident bcs i was too away from road, i reported doggi reviewed it and closed it and didnt answer when i asked he said i didn't see anything so i can't do anything, i was going to "report" him on forums but we don't get answers of forum reports and after like 1min a man came and hit me while i was on 1hp, reported again, again ignored, i /q and was thinking that maybe bcs of TCL issues with me made him against me or ignoring me.

Not sure who you have asked or who told you that we don't handle staff&player reports on the forums, We have prioritised them since the new year, They are all answered and handled, I've looked through the report log and you haven't seem to have ever sent one so i'd appreciate if you atleast try to report misdoing instead of shitting on the system, Since we cannot handle your reports if we do not know about them.

Your opinions are welcomed also, The only reason you will get banned is if you personally attack the person you're talking to, As in threaten them and insult them.

If you have ideas or problems send in your reports, or Forum PM a HQ member.

Well i once sent a report, never got a answer about that, like 1.2year ago, so i thought "Forum reports" suck :P

[Mazen.]

my philosophy of playing has been: Roleplay the best possible for each situation and give players give experiences with me. It may not change anything over the long term but it gives some people some good RP experiences. Of course I'm not the best RPer but I try my hardest to do that than pew pew all the time

[Bogomil]

Since I returned back to Argonath in 2018, my philosophy of playing has been: Roleplay the best possible for each situation and give players give experiences with me. It may not change anything over the long term but it gives some people some good RP experiences. Of course I'm not the best RPer but I try my hardest to do that than pew pew all the time. As a cop, I rather RP a situation than have a massive shootout that results in nothing. If an interesting RP ends in a shootout in a justified way then that's fine but only having shootouts is pointless.

Respect for those who are trying their best. Yesterday when I logged in Argonath one person was like "Why are you complaining, this is a light rp server". And that came from a guy that drives sultans heavily armed and every day does the same boring shit. When I see people like him online, I just don't log in. This is something that disgusts me. I only log in if there are people to roleplay with.

[Shahuzaan]

I'm glad Bogo created this thread. The server has a lovely script, one of the greatest there could be. I had played on a gazillion of servers and none of them could match up with the system we have on Argonath. The groups system and all are just amazing and well organized. But the problem is that players doesnt get this point. They just log in to run around and shit everywhere. When it comes to Role Play, most of us can't even freaking understand the proper use of /me and /do. A server neatly built doesn't deserve cancer like this. When some thing happens, boom.. fuck the admins.. and thats all people do. What kind of bull shit is that? If you can't role play in a situation, just don't. Please! it wastes time of people who actually tries to do some thing.

[Kacper_Gorski]

ok since ur all so smart, think of something that can improve the server

the suggestions board is open

[Bruce.]

"Why are you complaining, this is a light rp server".

That doesnt mean to not roleplay at all lmao. You still are obligated to roleplay with someone who interacts with you no matter what. People only roleplay to win and dont even bother roleplaying when they know they will loose.

[Shahuzaan]

ok since ur all so smart, think of something that can improve the server

the suggestions board is open

Aha.. Maybe a Role Play School?

[Bruce.]

ok since ur all so smart, think of something that can improve the server

the suggestions board is open

Aha.. Maybe a Role Play School?

Lmao

[Darty]

How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.

[Khm]

Anyone going to derail this topic will lose his freedom of speech on this forums. Even if you are an admin of any server.

[Tonny.]

I roleplay as a cop and someone decides top kidnap me or rob me because I gave him a $100 ticket for reckless driving, or when you were being pulled over for driving 1 km/h over the limit and you decide to evade, call all your friends, the pope, the us army and attack the cop who tried to pull over your splendor, the king of all criminals and meth parvenus. This is ridiculous. And it's not only about criminals, everyone does that.

It has happened to me more than once. The very last situation I remember was when I pulled over an Infernus for reckless driving. The driver decided to evade along with his aider, followed by an other Infernus occupied twice, and along with others friends, we had one of the longest shootouts which lasted for over 1 hour, with at least 7 dead people and at least 200k lost in total from their side, all this over a $250 ticket. I don't wish to say who as it could be anyone, but I myself wish to see more roleplay rather than this. I am currently inactive till June, but once I am back, by deciding rather I will remain as a law enforcer or a "criminal", I wish to enhance the roleplay at the maximum I can do, and anyone who wishes to join me (if I choose to become a "criminal" - I have some nice plans) is free to contact me. 

What I, myself, would like to see from criminal families is a real criminal attitude. Instead of going around and killing each other or cops, focus on smuggling, business evolving, drug producing and dealing. Don't just load up in cars once you are 8+, start driving around and hunting anyone you don't like for some reason that it doesn't matter. Also, if someone did something that pisses you off and that someone is from an enemy family, simply invite them over to whatever facility you desire to use. Let them be your guest, talk to them about what they did wrong, and if you've made up your mind that they will be punished, let them know what's coming for them and why. After that, let them go safe and sound. Wondering what you did? Proper roleplay interaction without people DMing. That's how it should work. There should be some honor among thieves at least. Someone invites you over to their home for a talk, you don't bring a whole army and shoot up the place once you go there. If you invite someone, rather your enemy or not, he's under your protection and it's your duty to keep them safe. Once you let them know what they did, once they leave the area, feel free to hunt them down afterwards if you see it reasonable.

About FLA, which I am not sure rather it's operating anymore or not. It would be nice to have to separate states which would increase roleplay, of course by avoiding DM fests. FLA claims independence of Flint County from San Andreas, sure. FLA members shouldn't be part of other groups that operate outside of Flint County. FLA gathers and you see people with all sorts of group tags. Remain tagless, make deals according trade with other areas of San Andreas. Flint County has farms, provide San Andreas with products and request money in return so you can develop Flint County. Create a constructing company, roleplay building new facilities, take screenshots, post them on forums, make a suggestion to the mapping team to add certain buildings where you require them according to the roleplay that was done and I am sure that the HQ will add such mapping to the server to enhance the roleplay (of course you would have to pay for the business/house - but not the mapping). Do something productive, other than rolling around FC and camping at tolls. I like the idea of having FLA hired guards at the tolls. Check the incoming and outgoing vehicles, especially trucks. If you don't want trucks or people to go through FC for no reason, add an extra fee for the to pass the tolls, some amount that could even sound stupid such as $10,000 to pass the toll and they will start avoiding the area themselves, instead of just pulling weapons or threatening people.

There are so many things that can be done. It's not hard, people just have to agree for the sake of everyone. Don't forget that this is a game after all. You are here to have fun and not to argue 24/7.

[Darty]

What I, myself, would like to see from criminal families is a real criminal attitude. Instead of going around and killing each other or cops, focus on smuggling, business evolving, drug producing and dealing. Don't just load up in cars once you are 8+, start driving around and hunting anyone you don't like for some reason that it doesn't matter. Also, if someone did something that pisses you off and that someone is from an enemy family, simply invite them over to whatever facility you desire to use. Let them be your guest, talk to them about what they did wrong, and if you've made up your mind that they will be punished, let them know what's coming for them and why. After that, let them go safe and sound. Wondering what you did? Proper roleplay interaction without people DMing. That's how it should work. There should be some honor among thieves at least. Someone invites you over to their home for a talk, you don't bring a whole army and shoot up the place once you go there. If you invite someone, rather your enemy or not, he's under your protection and it's your duty to keep them safe. Once you let them know what they did, once they leave the area, feel free to hunt them down afterwards if you see it reasonable.

I agree with everything you said, but mainly this. I've tried to interact with enemies so many times in good manners, sometimes it worked, but mostly not. I see people going after someone just because he logs in with _Tag, that's bullshit. Without even proper reasons to kill someone. Kidnapping people and killing them after they do what they say. I've had people come to kill me after I kidnapped someone and let him go after he did what I said. This has to change.

[Bogomil]

How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.

If I had to get over the bullshit, there are 2 opportunities - either leave the server or pretend it's all good and nothing significantly happens. Thing is I don't want to leave the server or pretend nothing happens. Instead I want to push the start of that change. If you find it useless, you can give me your well-prepared opinion, why you think the change won't happen this time.

[Darty]

How many topics like this one have been created and nothing has changed? It's about the play to win mentality people have. Get over it for God's sake.

If I had to get over the bullshit, there are 2 opportunities - either leave the server or pretend it's all good and nothing significantly happens. Thing is I don't want to leave the server or pretend nothing happens. Instead I want to push the start of that change. If you find it useless, you can give me your well-prepared opinion, why you think the change won't happen this time.

I alredy gave you my opinion. Hopefully things will change after this topic. I want a change as well, but you can't change people can you? Maybe harsh punishments will.