Roleplay direction of the server

[Cofiliano]

We are a light RP server.

We do are indeed, but should we continue with such standard? Are the circumstances appropriate to consider Argonath a light roleplay server or maybe it is time to get a bit more stricter.(?)

That time passed long time ago. We're no longer a light roleplay server, yet we went step back into a pokemon server basically.

[Younes]

As a suggestion for those who never started something by themselves and want to improve, I recommend roleplaying simple things such as car crashes and things you do daily without noticing like buying furniture or clothes from the stores or just walking your dog around Start with simple things.

I agree with this, I don't get why people refuse to roleplay the basic things and only want the big prize.. I myself started getting lazy over this and especially after attempting different times to roleplay such scenarios but only a few (5%) of those who were present actually showed interest, the rest either left or just kept standing still and not interacting at all..

[Darty]

" This is a light roleplay server " is one of the excuses people use to avoid interactions. Come on, this server has been running for more than 11 years, still stuck in that mindset?

[Marcel]

" This is a light roleplay server " is one of the excuses people use to avoid interactions. Come on, this server has been running for more than 11 years, still stuck in that mindset?

Being a light roleplay server doesn’t mean you don’t need to roleplay. It just means you don’t need to specifically roleplay extending your hands and shit like that.

[Bruce.]

Why cant we just add IC OOC and Metagaming and Powergaming. We need roleplay standarts and rules. And no, dont give me the argonath doesnt recognise mg pg ic and ooc because I am aware. If you want to make something nice again, we need roleplay standarts.

[Stivi]

But we already have metagaming rules, and powergaming rules. They are worded differently and admins don't enforce them. Basically, we need to somehow know it. We can't use /gm to call for backup as it's OOC chat. We need to find the information ICly.

Also you can't "force RP", so I can't say "Stivi punches you, you fall to your death and then Stivi jumps away to another block with his super powers". Yet, MG and PG don't exist here.

[Darty]

Being a light roleplay server doesn’t mean you don’t need to roleplay. It just means you don’t need to specifically roleplay extending your hands and shit like that.

Well that's what people think. " Oh light rp server, cool, I don't have to roleplay a lot. "
This mindset has to change.

[Bogomil]

Stricter roleplay rules and more people reporting for poor roleplay will fix it.

[Mr.Lawrence]

And even if we did, what will happen, Marcel, all of us said yes and you r the only one who said no, this server is running for 11-12 years, so we must prove it more than it is now..

[Bruce.]

And even if we did, what will happen, Marcel, all of us said yes and you r the only one who said no, this server is running for 11-12 years, so we must prove it more than it is now..

Its not up to him. He is on the same possition as we are.

[Huntsman]

Quite a problem indeed.

I wonder what happened as well. The significantly shrunk player base should be able to create a much more welcoming roleplay environment than two hundred people logged in at once with different interests and ideas in mind, no?

What happened to the server I used to like it so much?
It's ridiculous. I would have never thought that I'd have to see this day. SAMP always had it's problems, that's true, but the server has pretty much became an anarchy with zero roleplay.

Remember how every mafioso jumped on me when I mentioned criminal anarchy in the server a month or so ago?
Well, was in game yesterday. Once again, witnessed the exact same thing again. A certain "mafia" whom I will not specify to avoid being targeted again, kidnapping random drivers and truckers with some painful to watch one sided RP's that you couldn't force me to sit through. I'd much rather /q and take the consequences of RP evading than be constantly subjected to roleplays that only benefit you.

The lack of roleplay and the mentioned criminal anarchy has obviously scared off anyone who wants to be cop. What the hell happened to SAPD? It used to be a strong and prominent faction that had quite some power and would be of real challenge to the criminals. I yesterday, once again watched, how that same faction jumped on the one available cop in game without any consideration. Congratulations - that's how you scare everyone away from the cop role.

Current SAPD leadership is probably the best one the department had in a while, and I saw many. Instead of the Paul-style iron fist ruling that previous Chiefs and Command Staff were famous for, the current command are open to new ideas and ready to compromise. However, this one sided, piss-poor shitstain RP is what causes people to reconsider their candidateship for SAPD - nobody wants to be subjected to the same, one sided RP all the time.

Seriously, do you not have anything better to roleplay than kidnapping people all the time?

[Darty]

Preety much explains it all.

[Djinn]

Something I have to say might help few players. If you're afraid of trying a Role-play, don't be, don't think it's gonna flop. Just go ahead, risk it, do it. Is it just you in a bar that you just opened? Role-play getting drunk because no one showed up.
Risk whatever goes in your head. If it's only kidnapping? Not all of those role-plays need to end in death or massive dm scenes. None should. Just leave the person in the woods, naked, so much you can do without shooting a gun.
Also if your brain starts thinking " They're here to kill me " every single time someone approaches you start taking it out of your head and think " Role-play " and don't just freeze in your thoughts. Make it good, make it fun. You're here to have fun not to be the best or the worst at something. You win today, you lose tomorrow. Gambling is an example, you win, you lose.
If you're in a territory that doesn't belong to you, you can act tough and everything but don't pull your gun out and start shooting. Just role-play and do it the right way.
There's things you wanna do that aren't scripted yet and they're able to be? Ask the staff, but it doesn't stop you of role-playing that thing, use your imagination. While you're in the server and you're bored search the map, look around the map, businesses, areas, find good stuff, content to role-play.
And specially stop the hunting, the server is not about hunting other players.
Stop hating OOCly.
The community is supposed to be together as one and not separated OOCly.
Do you want to hate? Be a bitch IC.
It was time that shootouts were fun.
It was time that you'd look dope by hating on someone OOCly, not anymore.
Focus on making friends OOC.
I, myself can say, I've made friends all over the world and one day I expect to meet some of them IRL by travelling.
Hate and jealousy is something you don't want to be remembered of.
Make your picture as friendly and someone that can role-play.
Invest in yourself.

[Mr.Lawrence]

Something I have to say might help few players. If you're afraid of trying a Role-play, don't be, don't think it's gonna flop. Just go ahead, risk it, do it. Is it just you in a bar that you just opened? Role-play getting drunk because no one showed up.
Risk whatever goes in your head. If it's only kidnapping? Not all of those role-plays need to end in death or massive dm scenes. None should. Just leave the person in the woods, naked, so much you can do without shooting a gun.
Also if your brain starts thinking " They're here to kill me " every single time someone approaches you start taking it out of your head and think " Role-play " and don't just freeze in your thoughts. Make it good, make it fun. You're here to have fun not to be the best or the worst at something. You win today, you lose tomorrow. Gambling is an example, you win, you lose.
If you're in a territory that doesn't belong to you, you can act tough and everything but don't pull your gun out and start shooting. Just role-play and do it the right way.
There's things you wanna do that aren't scripted yet and they're able to be? Ask the staff, but it doesn't stop you of role-playing that thing, use your imagination. While you're in the server and you're bored search the map, look around the map, businesses, areas, find good stuff, content to role-play.
And specially stop the hunting, the server is not about hunting other players.
Stop hating OOCly.
The community is supposed to be together as one and not separated OOCly.
Do you want to hate? Be a bitch IC.
It was time that shootouts were fun.
It was time that you'd look dope by hating on someone OOCly, not anymore.
Focus on making friends OOC.
I, myself can say, I've made friends all over the world and one day I expect to meet some of them IRL by travelling.
Hate and jealousy is something you don't want to be remembered of.
Make your picture as friendly and someone that can role-play.
Invest in yourself.

100 percent right, we are here to have fun.

[Miki.]

Something I have to say might help few players. If you're afraid of trying a Role-play, don't be, don't think it's gonna flop. Just go ahead, risk it, do it. Is it just you in a bar that you just opened? Role-play getting drunk because no one showed up.
Risk whatever goes in your head. If it's only kidnapping? Not all of those role-plays need to end in death or massive dm scenes. None should. Just leave the person in the woods, naked, so much you can do without shooting a gun.
Also if your brain starts thinking " They're here to kill me " every single time someone approaches you start taking it out of your head and think " Role-play " and don't just freeze in your thoughts. Make it good, make it fun. You're here to have fun not to be the best or the worst at something. You win today, you lose tomorrow. Gambling is an example, you win, you lose.
If you're in a territory that doesn't belong to you, you can act tough and everything but don't pull your gun out and start shooting. Just role-play and do it the right way.
There's things you wanna do that aren't scripted yet and they're able to be? Ask the staff, but it doesn't stop you of role-playing that thing, use your imagination. While you're in the server and you're bored search the map, look around the map, businesses, areas, find good stuff, content to role-play.
And specially stop the hunting, the server is not about hunting other players.
Stop hating OOCly.
The community is supposed to be together as one and not separated OOCly.
Do you want to hate? Be a bitch IC.
It was time that shootouts were fun.
It was time that you'd look dope by hating on someone OOCly, not anymore.
Focus on making friends OOC.
I, myself can say, I've made friends all over the world and one day I expect to meet some of them IRL by travelling.
Hate and jealousy is something you don't want to be remembered of.
Make your picture as friendly and someone that can role-play.
Invest in yourself.

Obviously you're right but this kind of change and decision should be taken by several people that have impact on more and more of them.
Everyone always say "start from yourself" that's true but not entirely working here. I met too many scenes in which I only wished to have a roleplay interaction even if it's a "negative" one. I roleplay my ass off and get killed with in no time. you manage to out roleplay your kidnaper? or trick him IC wise he'll just kill you.
I miss old times where even when you got kidnaped you RPed your soul out and had a smile on your face since you met proper cooperation from the kidnaping side.
People should understand you can Character kill someone and you don't really have to kill some one in any way to have your "victory" in my opinion having the chance to kidnap some one and leave him naked or torture him slightly and than let him go is such more a massive win than shooting him down that doesn't take much effort really - I remember how I watched countless movies and met such scenes in there and withdrawn alot of ideas into argonath and just wished to use them. and this is a great example if you get your head into roleplay even when I watch a movie with my girlfriend - the though of " oh that's a cool scene wonder if I could use it IG" is coming up you know that you're looking forward to RP and bring creativity IG.

I'm long pass getting pissed on having some one bragging around his /crime on /p and shouting around how he killed me.
Mentality of killing is wining should be gone. roleplay is the real win here and out roleplaying some one is even better.
I met so much friends IG that I'd love to fly sometime to meet them funny thing, alot of them were always IC-wise against me and we always interacted in such way yet I love their personality and we keep it IC wise only. the whole idea of a community is having proper relations between one another we are not here to fight we are here to make friends and create some what of relations between human beings if you get pissed from seeing a name IG or on forums, or you simply know you hate some one - fix it that's a problem I personally don't hate any one in this community it's just I disagree with behavior of several people and the way the act and that's fine but I'd never go personally on them or wish to. after all it's an RP server and the real win should be the roleplay nothing else.
Yes some people have more people in their group some have better shooters- and? whole idea here is that even a single person can simply roleplay wise win and kidnap a high rank of a group and torture him or embarrass him- this is a full win or hurt the group's respect in any other way IG and that will be a perfect win for a single person to carry even a minor affect on a group.